Hi Juergen, I wouldn't discuss about [2] and [3]. They are just examples and they have been discussing on other places.
I would like to discuss about [1] and why we are almost the same people any year, why the number of participants doesn't grow and why large proportion of people comes from few companies. The problem is always the same. IMHO our project is likely definable as big companies project with an end-user community collaboration. What I would like to see is the project transformed in a really free software community project with companies collaboration, maybe with a sort of hybridization model. Even IMHO this is the main reason because our community doesn't grow as they should. I think is time to change some rules. The model is showing his limits. What are, at the moment, the proposals to solve such problem and open our project to external contributions also in term of management? A geological era ago (in 2001) someone proposed the creation of a foundation. http://www.openoffice.org/white_papers/OOo_project/openofficefoundation.html This argument has been discussed privately every year. Is it time maybe to rivive this discussion? Davide Juergen Schmidt wrote: > Hi Davide, > > i think [3] is a special thing and we all agree that it is a sad story. > We should exactly identify what the problems were and should start to > work on them. Does they still exists? Or have some things already changed. > > [2] is more or less around the JCA where i don't see that a further > discussion make sense. > > If you want to start a discussion around community and community work i > would suggest that you should clearly communicate your concerns. List > all your concerns in detail and ideally suggest ways how we can improve > it. I am sure that we are all open to discuss these points with you. > > What i personally don't like to do is a general discussion on a level > where we talk more about politics than about real community work on a > great product. > > Well a lot of things can be improved and i think we are working already > on it. > > Bring up your concrete concerns and let us discuss > > Juergen > > > > Davide Dozza wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> some days ago I launched a stone into the water. I posted some >> consideration [1] about the OOoCon and more in general about our >> community. >> >> It seems that things don't happen alone. After the Michael Meeks >> announce [2] following the Kohei [3] post I think there is something to >> discuss about our "community" and how they should evolve. In fact it >> seems clear to me that the actual community rules, and more in general >> about how the project is managed, are not anymore suitable to manage >> what the Community asks. >> >> I'm deliberating using two terms, "community" and Community, because I >> think there is a common misinterpretation about what a community is. >> >> Hoping this start a constructive discussion, >> >> Ciao >> >> Davide >> >> >> >> [1] >> http://robertogaloppini.net/2007/10/02/openofficeorg-conference-2007-some-thoughts/ >> >> >> [2] http://www.gnome.org/~michael/activity.html#2007-10-02 >> >> [3] http://kohei.us/2007/10/02/history-of-calc-solver/ >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
