That's good. Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:38 PM
To: Sergey Galuzo
Cc: Shane Reynolds; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Planet Updates

Hi,

On 04/18/2012 07:52 PM, Sergey Galuzo wrote:
> Sorry. I don't quite get it. If the database content is identical how would 
> anybody know how the database got there?

Let me explain it by example.

Case A: You meet a stranger in the street. You point a gun to his head and 
request he give you five dollars. He complies. Nobody sees it. A second later 
he is run over by a bus.

Case B: You meet a stranger in the street. You tell him that you urgently need 
to catch a bus and whether he could spare five dollars. He gives five dollars 
to you. Nobody sees it. A second later he is run over by a bus.

In both cases, the end result is the same; the other guy is dead and you have 
five dollars. Nobody apart from yourself will ever know how the five dollars 
got there.

But case A is illegal and case B is legal. Just because nobody knows that you 
did something illegal, doesn't make it legal.

Clear so far?

If you have a current database on disk it is CC-BY-SA licensed and nothing will 
ever change that. It is not dual-liecensed, not 
CC-BY-SA-until-OSMF-says-otherwise - just CC-BY-SA and that's it. Any work 
derived from this database, and applying a diff is clearly making a derived 
work, will always have to be CC-BY-SA, that's what the license requires. Even 
if whoever gave you the file changes their mind and says "from now on I'll hand 
the file out as PD", that will not change the fact that what you have *on disk* 
is CC-BY-SA forever. (This same reasoning also works to protect you - if 
whoever gave you the file suddenly says "from now on I will only release my 
file with additional conditions attached" then you still have the CC-BY-SA 
version on your disk that nobody can take away from you.)

In a nutshell, you can probably continue to use your database under ODbL and 
nobody will notice. It won't be legal though and you'd better keep quiet about 
it. And I don't recommend it.

Bye
Frederik

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