Hi Romain
Because this is a new initiative, it must follow the ASF rules even if graduate 
as a subproject

But imo, this is not a subproject, because it has different aims from owb core, 
owb aim is just implement the specification

Please have a look 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#subproject-or-top-level

So my advice is to write an incubator project , sponsored by the owb, and 
graduate as sub or top level project ( my vote will be as tlp)

We can also bring this issue in a board report and getting advice from the board

Regards

Gurkan

> On 25 Jun 2017, at 22:08, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
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> Le 25 juin 2017 21:03, "Gurkan Erdogdu" <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> Hi Romain
> 
> Because it is a very different mind , it just uses the owb but may also use 
> other cdi implementation in the future
> 
> 
> No no. You missed a central point : owb+cxf+tomcat highly integrated vs a 
> portable stack like hammock is. Here we just want to integrate our preferred 
> stack.
> 
> 
> Also, it may implement the microprofile speficiation
> 
> 
> It could but still compat with owb afaik.
> 
> 
> Also it has its own project page, codebase, release cycle, issues etc. It 
> just depends on owb as library
> 
> True, it is a subproject
> 
> 
> 
> So for the future perpective, it is now to route for such action at the  
> beginning, and so it will much more getting attraction from the asf and other 
> communities
> 
> We used a subproject cause was proven being wrong on this hypothesis we did 
> for some other incubator projects
> 
> 
> 
> I will be gald to help on such effort
> 
> Why not helping here?
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gurkan
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2017, at 21:56, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Hi Gurkan
>> 
>> What is the rational behind such a reasonning since core of meecrowave is 
>> owb and that we agreed to import?
>> 
>> Side note: tomee doesnt fit since we dont impl specs bit just build a server 
>> centered around owb to avoid tomcat integration issues we often see on the 
>> list.
>> 
>> Le 25 juin 2017 20:44, "Gurkan Erdogdu" <[email protected]> a 
>> écrit :
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> As I said earlier , Meecrowave project needs to be seperated from owb, it 
>>> has own project page, codebase, issues, release cycle etc. There are two 
>>> options in here either Tomee subproject or  new in incubator project. My 
>>> binding vote will be -1 for such release otherwise. I know that incubator 
>>> projects needs much more admin work but from my opinion this is the way of 
>>> introducing such new project in ASF
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Gurkan
>>> 
>>> > On 17 Jun 2017, at 20:38, Mark Struberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi folks!
>>> >
>>> > We are finished with implementing all CDI-2.0 features and now 
>>> > successfully pass the standalone TCK!
>>> > A recent owb-2.0.0-SNAPSHOT is deployed to the Apache Snapshots 
>>> > repository [1].
>>> > This get's deployed via Jenkins each night.
>>> >
>>> > It would be great if you could try it out and give us some feedback!
>>> > We gonna release it somewhen next week.
>>> >
>>> > txs and LieGrue,
>>> > strub
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [1] https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/
>>> 
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