Attendees:

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   Alkis: Databricks storage and IO. goals: make Parquet metadata better
   for wide schemas and in general.
   -

      Get pr in on parquet-benchmark
      -

      Extensions PR in review
      -

      Review ongoing footer experiments.
      -

   Micah: Google. Listen in
   -

   Rok: freelancing for fintech. Solving a problem related to encryption.
   Nothing to discuss yet. Interested in the wide schema tables. Started
   pushing for donating wide footer for parquet-benchmark.
   -

   Julien: Datadog. Interested in metadata improvements
   -

   Ashish: listening in.
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   Gene: Databricks, main contributor to the Variant work. Topic: Where to
   put the spec?


Agenda:

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   Ongoing Metadata tasks
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   *Review Alkis’s footer experiments*
   -

   *Variant type*


Notes:

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   Ongoing Metadata tasks:


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   Get pr in on parquet-benchmark:
   https://github.com/apache/parquet-benchmark/pull/1
   -

      Action Items:
      -

         Micah: last review.
         -

         Julien: Review and merge.
         -

   Extensions PR in review:
   https://github.com/apache/parquet-format/pull/254
   -

      Goal to end the vote by the end of the week.
      -

      Minimum 3 binding votes.
      -

      Action Items:
      -

         Micah: last review and vote


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   *Review Alkis’s footer experiments*:
   https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/43793
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      Standard Google C++ benchmark:
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         Add footer
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         Convert footer
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         Verify footer
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      Measure:
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         Make sure we don’t blow up the metadata
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         Overhead of adding the new footer when not reading it.
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      Collecting telemetry in Databricks to have more information on size
      of metadata (can we use smaller ints for sizes?).
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         Can we limit the max size of a row group?
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      Hierarchical definition in metadata?
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         Move encodings to not be in footer but only with pages.
         -

            General agreement on this
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      Action Items:
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         Alkis: will start a google doc from the benchmark to discuss the
         optimizations that are more controversial.
         -

            Discuss limiting row group size to int 32
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            Discuss removing stats from the footer or have two layers of
            footer.
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   *Variant type.*
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      Arrow or Parquet are good hosting projects for that. It looks like
      Parquet makes more consensus.
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      Logical encoding with fairly complex spec.
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         Need separate jar.
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            Consumable by ORC, Avro, …
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      Currently: Spark holds the spec and the code
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         Contribute Spec first: collect comments and make changes
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         Code takes a little longer: need to refactor to separate from Spark
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         There will be more than one implementation (or even more than one
         JVM impl)
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      Parquet Cpp
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         Current arrow impl combines IO and allocation in the library
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         Would be better to have a separate lib that does not have IO nor
         allocation.
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      Follow up:
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         Gene to start a google doc to form a plan and will share on the
         thread.


Links:

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   Issue on compat testing:
   https://github.com/apache/parquet-format/issues/441
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On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 9:00 AM Julien Le Dem <jul...@apache.org> wrote:

> The next Parquet Sync is happening today at 9:30am PT - 12:30pm ET -
> 6:30pm CET
> (in 30min)
> To join the invite:
> https://calendar.app.google/61H58BfhTbY82tuZ6
> Everybody is welcome, bring your topic or just listen in.
> Best
> Julien
>

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