> On 8 Jan 2015, at 06:39, Maruan Sahyoun <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Am 08.01.2015 um 13:18 schrieb Andreas Lehmkühler <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Maruan Sahyoun <[email protected]> hat am 8. Januar 2015 um 12:52
>>> geschrieben:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 08.01.2015 um 12:39 schrieb Andreas Lehmkühler <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Maruan Sahyoun <[email protected]> hat am 8. Januar 2015 um 12:18
>>>>> geschrieben:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 08.01.2015 um 11:51 schrieb Maruan Sahyoun <[email protected]>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 08.01.2015 um 11:44 schrieb Andreas Lehmkühler <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maruan Sahyoun <[email protected]> hat am 1. Januar 2015 um 21:52
>>>>>>>> geschrieben:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> the docs shall reside in pdfbox-docs from where they will be pulled 
>>>>>>>> onto
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> website or looked at directly at github. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The publishing process to our website is not yet in place as there is 
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> content. I'm looking to get the redesign of the website done to
>>>>>>>> accommodate
>>>>>>>> for the old 1.8 and new 2.0 release.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Apache Drill project seems to use something which could be
>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> us as well, see the posting on dev@community
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/vtb3or4tf7bb2hid
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> very nice idea
>>>>> 
>>>>> I looked into that in more detail. This would replace the Apache CMS for
>>>>> most
>>>>> parts as this will be using jekyll to generate the html from the sources
>>>>> which
>>>>> means that all source files would be in there.
>>>> This means that we have to move the whole site to github? Or could we start
>>>> with
>>>> a part of it, as planned for the docs?
>>> 
>>> we can use that to only generate the docs. I can do a similar setup to see 
>>> how
>>> that would work for us - would need to replicate some of the html template 
>>> so
>>> it also works standalone.
>>> 
>>> Shall I?
>> It depends on the effort and the time you want to spend on that. We should 
>> try
>> it if it is worth doing it.
> 
> as jekyll is a replacement/similar to the Apache CMS testing it on the docs 
> is fine and we get some experience. 
> 
> pro: 
> - leverage GitHub to generate the docs
> - use jekyll which is well documented
> - full integration into GitHub to do automated builds

- How is this a pro?
- What aspects of jekyll are we wanting to use that we haven’t been able to 
figure out with ApacheCMS?
- ApacheCMS has automated builds to staging

> cons:
> - will need a local build to generate the HTML to push into SVN 
> [https://github.com/apache/drill/blob/gh-pages/README.md 
> <https://github.com/apache/drill/blob/gh-pages/README.md>]
> - replicates the Apache CMS functionality

That first point is a real headache, current my workflow for editing docs is:

1. edit a markdown file
2. commit to SVN
3. click publish on ApacheCMS site

Anything which makes that harder isn’t good.

The second point makes me think: if we’re stuck with some aspect of ApacheCMS, 
why not figure out how to use it? What are we stuck on?

> At the end it's using jekyll and svnpubsub/manual upload or Apache CMS. Mixed 
> makes no sense for the long run or only if the Doumentation is a kind of 
> micro site similar to http://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/4.0.0/ 
> <http://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/4.0.0/> which is also a valid approach.
> 
> Maruan
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Other than that I do like the layout they have.
>>>> I don't want to start a discussion about our layout ;-) but theirs is ok.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Wasn't meant to be interpreted this way!
>>> 
>>>> BR
>>>> Andreas Lehmkühler
>>>> 
>>>> P.S.: It looks like others are also interested in that solution, DeviceMap
>>>> just
>>>> asks for some pointers .... I'll continue tracing the thread
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> BR
>>>>>>> Andreas Lehmkühler
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maruan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 01.01.2015 um 19:38 schrieb John Hewson <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We’re getting closer to 2.0 being ready and I’m thinking about writing
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> docs, but currently the situation seems to be worse than it was before
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> docs stated moving to GitHub - where are our canonical docs and how 
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> contribute to them? 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All I see on GitHub is some old 1.8 stuff and an incomplete cookbook
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> forms. Is this content live anywhere? Is there a pay to preview it?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- John

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