The SwingX project has a nice system where people put their own
not-ready-for-platform code into something like

   /trunk/users-dev/noelgrandin/src/MyWeirdWidget.java

Then it becomes visible to everybody and people can comment and improve
on each other's code.
Quite a lot of stuff ended up making its way into the mainline like that.

-- Noel

On 2010-02-23 14:29, Todd Volkert wrote:
> That's a good point Noel.  I actually created
> http://code.google.com/p/pivot-contrib/ a couple of weeks ago just to backup
> a layout container that I was working on that was too app-specific to be in
> the platform.  I don't like the idea of putting stuff like that
> (app-specific add-ons) in the platform, but there's no legal reason to put
> it on Google Code either... it's almost as if we could create a separate
> hierarchy in SVN that lived off the trunk and never got released where we
> could put stuff like this.  Then if newbies wanted widget X, and someone had
> built it before in this playground, we could just point the newbie there,
> and they could fork it and build it themselves.
>
> I know Niclas created "skunk" as a sibling to "trunk", but I'm not sure
> that's appropriate, as I think it was meant for experimental features that
> may be included in the trunk some day...
>
> In any case, what do others think?
> -T
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Noel Grandin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi
>>
>> Pivot is still showing normal early stage adoption i.e. a trickle of
>> interest. These things tend to ramp in bursts, so my counsel would
>> simply be to be patient.
>>
>> I agree on the SWT issue - I don't think porting Pivot to SWT would
>> improve adoption. SWT already has JFace, Nebula and various other
>> additional widget libraries.
>>
>> On the other hand, Pivot is a great example of how good Swing could be
>> if it was allowed to evolve :-)
>>
>> I do notice that we're getting various conversations along the lines of
>>
>> Newbie: "X is very easy to do with toolkit Y"
>> Pivot-guru: "You could implement X on top of component C"
>> Newbie: "That's too hard! Can't you just add it?"
>> Pivot-guru: "Adding that feature doesn't really fit into our architecture"
>>
>> Which is reasonable, but maybe we should be implementing these features
>> in some kind of extras package until we have a good enough idea of how
>> to fit the features into the main codebase?
>>
>> -- Noel
>>
>> On 2010-02-23 00:14, Greg Brown wrote:
>>     
>>> Though we have only gotten two responses on the SWT question, it seems as
>>>       
>> though an SWT port may not be the best way to move Pivot forward. Michael
>> made some great suggestions. What do others think? What can we do to help
>> raise awareness of and interest in Pivot as a viable alternative to other
>> Java-based UI technologies?
>>     
>>>
>>>       
>>
>>     
>   

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