I agree with Sandro that Pivot needs to have a killer attraction.  Though
Sandro mentioned a killer feature, I think a killer app would be more in
order.

ExtJS really took off when Sonatype used it for the Nexus Repository UI.
JavaFX got press when it was used for the Winter Olympics site.
Karsten's  JGoodies got a lot of notice when he made JDiskReport.

Are there any useful apps that can be donated to the community to get
attention?

One I can think of is a JIRA app (we talked about it before).  The HTML
browser on Apache is lame, and so many people use JIRA a successful app
would get a lot of eyes.

Michael Bushe
Principal
Bushe Enterprises, Inc.
[email protected]
www.bushe.com


On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Sandro Martini <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi,
> sorry, just post to the other thread ... but here I have some other note.
>
> > Pivot is still showing normal early stage adoption i.e. a trickle of
> interest.
> I know, for example until now (after many months I work on Pivot) I'm
> unable to provide my customers solutions based on Pivot, the feedback
> is always great, all is interesting, good, etc but at the end the
> solution it's always the same: dynamic web pages and in some cases
> some Flash widget (nor Flex, nor Silverlight :-) ), ok could also be a
> market problem where I live (and in my customers), but in many cases I
> think that RIA solutions are still too forward, because also it's
> simpler to find some people to write a jsp/jsf page, but to write a
> really good application a developer is needed.
> And note that we are also paying for the (many) old Java Plugin and
> Swing bugs, but since Java 6 Update 10 many things are really changed
> here.
> So I think that we still need some time for the market (and customer
> minds) to evolve ... and I repeat here (taken from my other post) we
> have to provide some real-world killer feature.
>
>
> > Newbie: "X is very easy to do with toolkit Y"
> > Pivot-guru: "You could implement X on top of component C"
> > Newbie: "That's too hard! Can't you just add it?"
> > Pivot-guru: "Adding that feature doesn't really fit into our
> architecture"
> I agree completely with this, I asked many times for a folder in
> svn/trunk where publish experimental work and discuss/review with
> others (if interested), if not on apache on Google Code or other.
>
>
> Sandro
>

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