Hi Justin,

I see your concerns and I agree that I still have to learn some things about 
the "Apache Way" and this "do it all in the open" philosophy, thus this is a 
good discussion.
But, I guess we get rid of the discussion if we do the following
- generate a PLC4X branch where all the development takes place (=> everything 
is ASF licensed)
- keep the paper source in the separate repo and, if necessary, reference code 
snippets from PLC4X Repo (with clear license)

The point where I disagree is that the paper writing should be in the open for 
several reasons
- it is not a paper of the PLC4X Community, it is a paper highlighting thinks 
strongly related to PLC4X
- the paper is written by several individuals which may or may not be of the 
community
- I want to invite everybody with interest to participate (chris already has 
access) but no one is automatically part of this separate thing due to being 
PMC or something
- It is absolutely usual to do paper writing in the private and upload the 
results (artefacts) on ArXiv and submit them to the journal otherwise you 
always risk someone copying stuff from you and submitting it without jour 
notice (which may be an issue from the license side but which should be pretty 
hard and complicated to proof and which would almost surely damage your paper 
aswell)

On other project lists sometimes someone shares a preprint of a related Paper 
when its in the preprint stage.
As we are a small and very vital community I wanted to offer everybody to 
participate in this, to not feel like "stealing" ideas that others expressed on 
these lists but to give them the credit they deserve.

I hope that we can all agree on something like that?

Julian

Am 29.04.19, 12:34 schrieb "Justin Mclean" <[email protected]>:

    Hi,
    
    > some clarification... this repo currently hosts two things... some code 
snippets (really messy) and the draft version for the paper (like really really 
early draft).
    
    If any of the code appears in the paper and is not clearly licensed under a 
compatible license then it’s unlikely PLC4X can use it.
    
    > And I also want to avoid that someone just takes the paper and submits it 
somewhere with his own name as author…
    
    And the problem with that is? Even under the most permissive licenses they 
generally need to acknowledge the original copyright owners.
    
    > But I wanted to share also this Paper effort with the community to give 
everybody the chance to participate in this paper as it is so strongly related 
to plc4x.
    
    IMO Putting it in a private repo is not sharing it with the community but 
the choice to do so is yours.
    
    Thanks,
    Justin

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