Usually it should be the germans taking the 2 years because they make it REALLY 
well engineered... :D

Am 07.05.19, 15:30 schrieb "l...@code-house.org" <l...@code-house.org>:

    You can count me in. :-) My 10 years old freelancing business 
(code-house.org <http://code-house.org/>), and our micro ltd/gmbg 
(connectorio.com <http://connectorio.com/>) which is few months old are, all 
are deeply interested in moving these things forward.
    
    Making better use of software to integrate hardware and machinery is very 
interesting perspective which we will definitely explore - with EU help or 
without (yes, it will take us 2+ years to make first PR ;-)).
    
    Cheers,
    Łukasz
    
    > On 7 May 2019, at 15:00, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
wrote:
    > 
    > Hehe,
    > 
    > if Lukasz joins in, we'll have multiple countries ;-)
    > 
    > Chris
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Am 07.05.19, 14:53 schrieb "Markus Sommer" <som...@isb-fn.de>:
    > 
    >    Hey Chris,
    > 
    >    I agree with Julian, the EU projects are mostly bigger. Also several 
EU countries have to participate in the EU projects.
    > 
    >    I think the idea is good, now I have to clarify the boundary 
conditions and build up the successful project setup (university, end user 
etc.). 
    > 
    >    We currently have a German project funded by the BMBF and in September 
we will carry out our first EU-funded project with 5-6 EU states on the topic 
of offline debugging of neural networks and online validation of self-learning 
systems in production.
    > 
    >    We would also participate.
    > 
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    > 
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    >    -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    >    Von: Julian Feinauer <j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de> 
    >    Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 14:28
    >    An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
    >    Betreff: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
    > 
    >    Hi Chris,
    > 
    >    I like the idea and in fact, as stated earlier on the list, there is a 
project funded by the german government (SFSC) together with Matthias Institute 
where we plan to do some PLC4X development and integration.
    >    The EU founded projects are usually larger but also harder to acquire, 
so it will be a LOT of paperwork, but could be worth it if we make a nice 
proposal and outline a really feasible solution (not only covering plc4x but 
also some "end-user-usable" thing, or so).
    >    And, we should gather several "assoziated" partners which explain 
their interest in what we want to do.
    > 
    >    And of course good university support. So perhaps the ISW (Matthias) 
and also the WZL Aachen (Björn has good contacts) and the IFQ Magdeburg (we 
have good contacts) could be good universitary partners for such a project.
    > 
    >    So pragmatic minds or pragmatic industries would be in, I guess.
    > 
    >    Julian
    > 
    >    Am 07.05.19, 14:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" 
<christofer.d...@c-ware.de>:
    > 
    >        Hi all,
    > 
    >        while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I 
had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they 
really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate 
in the Industry 4.0 sector.
    >        They also promised to help us where they can.
    > 
    >        While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some 
further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for 
some options for EU funded research.
    > 
    >        I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we 
could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
    > 
    >        You think that’s a good idea?
    > 
    >        Chris
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    
    

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