I'd like to remain as committer and contribute my humble efforts to the prosperity of the project.
> I propose we stay with the current PMC and committer list unless someone > wants to remove themselves. It may be good. In fact, most of committers carry out a task with limited time. Anyway I hope the project will progress in a good direction. 2017-09-06 3:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com>: > I personally don’t see much benefit in removing people unless they prove the > exception. AFAIK this generally does not happen in ASF. I’m certainly not > aware of the process except that it is easier in moving from podling to TLP. > You prove some worthiness and once that’s done, it’s done. A poll might just > ask project members if they want to be removed. I have seen people ask to be > removed from PMC and also “go emeritus” and those are cases of the > individuals making the choice. > > So to settle the role call issue I propose we stay with the current PMC and > committer list unless someone wants to remove themselves. > > As to maturity I agree with Donald that the checklist is heavy in our favor. > > > On Sep 5, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Simon Chan <si...@salesforce.com> wrote: > > +1 for graduation > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Donald Szeto <don...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Thanks for the clarification Pat! It always help to have Apache veterans to >> provide historical context to these processes. >> >> As for me, I'd like to remain as PMC and committer. >> >> I like the idea of polling the current committers and PMC, but like you >> said, most of them got pretty busy and may not be reading mailing list in a >> while. Maybe let me try a shout out here and see if anyone would >> acknowledge it, so that we know whether a poll will be effective. >> >> *>> If you're a PMC or committer who see this line but hasn't been replying >> this thread, please acknowledge. <<* >> >> Regarding the maturity model, this is my perception right now: >> - CD10, CD20, CD30, CD40 (and we start to have CD50 as well) >> - LC10, LC20, LC30, LC40, LC50 >> - RE10, RE20, RE30, RE50 (I think we hope to also do RE40 with 0.12) >> - QU10, QU30, QU40, QU50 (we should put a bit of focus to QU20) >> - CO10, CO20, CO30, CO40, CO60, CO70 (for CO50, I think we've been >> operating under the assumption that PMC and contributors are pretty >> standard definitions by ASF. We can call those out explicitly.) >> - CS10, CS50 (We are also assuming implicitly CS20, CS30, and CS40 from >> main ASF doc) >> - IN10, IN20 >> >> Let me know what you think. >> >> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Pat Ferrel <p...@occamsmachete.com> wrote: >> >>> The Chair, PMC, and Committers may be different after graduation. >>> PMC/committers are sometimes not active committers but can have a >> valuable >>> role as mentors, in non-technical roles, as support people on the mailing >>> list, or as sometimes committers who don’t seem very active but come in >>> every so often to make a key contribution. So I hope this doesn’t become >> a >>> time to prune too deeply. I’d suggest we only do that if one of the >>> committers has done something to lessen our project maturity or wants to >> be >>> left out for their own reasons. An example of bad behavior is someone >>> trying to exert corporate dominance (which is severely frowned on by the >>> ASF). Another would be someone who is disruptive to the point of >> destroying >>> team effectiveness. I personally haven’t seen any of this but purposely >>> don’t read everything so chime in here. >>> >>> It would be good to have people declare their interest-level. As for me, >>> I’d like to remain on the PMC as a committer but have no interest in >> Chair. >>> Since people can become busy periodically and not read @dev (me?) we >> could, >>> maybe should, poll the current committers and PMC to get the lists ready >>> for the graduation proposal. >>> >>> >>> Don’t forget that we are not just asking for dev community opinion about >>> graduation. We are also asking that people check things like the Maturity >>> Checklist to see it we are ready. http://community.apache.org/ >>> apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html < >>> http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project- >> maturity-model.html> >>> People seem fairly enthusiastic about applying for graduation, but are >>> there things we need to do before hand? The goal is to show that we do >> not >>> require the second level check for decisions that the IPMC provides. The >>> last release required no changes but had a proviso about content >> licenses. >>> This next release should fly through without provisos IMHO. Are there >> other >>> things we should do? >>> >>> >>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 6:16 AM, takako shimamoto <chiboch...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> I entirely agree with everyone else. >>> I hope the PIO community will become more active after graduation. >>> >>>> 2. If we are to graduate, who should we include in the list of the >>> initial >>>> PMC? >>> >>> Don't all present IPMC members are included in the list of the initial >> PMC? >>> >>> Personally, I think we may as well check and see if present IPMC >>> members intend to become an initial PMC for graduation. >>> Members who make a declaration of intent to become it will surely >>> contribute to the project. >>> It is a great contribution not only to develop a program but also to >>> respond to email aggressively or fix document. >>> >>> >>> 2017-08-29 14:20 GMT+09:00 Donald Szeto <don...@apache.org>: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Since the ASF Board meeting in May ( >>>> http://apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2017/board_ >>> minutes_2017_05_17.txt), >>>> PredictionIO has been considered nearing graduation and I think we are >>>> almost there. I am kickstarting this thread so that we can discuss on >>> these >>>> 3 things: >>>> >>>> 1. Does the development community feel ready to graduate? >>>> 2. If we are to graduate, who should we include in the list of the >>> initial >>>> PMC? >>>> 3. If we are to graduate, who should be the VP of the initial PMC? >>>> >>>> These points are relevant for graduation. Please take a look at the >>>> official graduation guide: >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html. >>>> >>>> In addition, Sara and I have been working to transfer the PredictionIO >>>> trademark to the ASF. We will keep you updated with our progress. >>>> >>>> I would also like to propose to cut a 0.12.0 release by merging JIRAs >>> that >>>> have a target version set to 0.12.0-incubating for graduation. 0.12.0 >>> will >>>> contain cleanups for minor license and copyright issues that were >> pointed >>>> out in previous releases by IPMC. >>>> >>>> Let me know what you think. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Donald >>> >>> >> >
