Hi -

The explanation should be more carefully worded. Contributors do not self 
nominate themselves. The PMC will notice contributors who have proven 
themselves. A discussion follows on private@ to avoid any embarrassment. 
Assuming that the VOTE passes if it is for PMC then a NOTICE is given to the 
IPMC or the Board. This is a 72 hour LAZY ACK in the extremely rare case 
someone knows something that is bad. You don’t need to explain these details. 
Once the new Committer and/or PMC has been elected. The PMC will contact them 
off list to make sure that they accept. This is followed by an announcement on 
the dev@ list. The whole point here is to avoid public embarrassment which 
could cause contributors to leave.

For example, the DISCUSSION (on private@) could be like so:
1. [DISCUSS] Jane Doe for PMC - she’s done some significant work and it is all 
high quality. She is good to work with and always helpful with users on the 
mailing list.
2. RE: - She’s great +1
3. RE2: - I’m not sure as she’s only been active for one month. Let’s wait a 
few months to see if her contributions are sustained.
… two months,
4. [DISCUSS] Jane Doe for PMC/Committer - it’s been two months and she’s still 
helping with code and users. Is it time.
5. RE: yes!
6. RE2: yes!
… 72 hours
7. [VOTE] ….
… 72 hours
8. [NOTICE]
… 72 hours
9. Invite Jane
10. Jane is surprised and accepts
11. Announce on Dev@ and maybe twitter.

So, you can see ways to tweak your language.

Regards,
Dave

> On Aug 29, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Matteo Merli <matteo.me...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 5:50 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> This is very detailed and looks good with one important omission.
>> 
>> How does one go on from being a contributor to committer / PMC status?
>> There should be a description about that.
>> 
>> Please discuss!
>> 
> 
> That is a very good point. I have added a couple of sections to the
> "Contributing" page in the PR:
> * https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/pull/2459
> * Preview link:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/blob/0515a9a12a77ca6ffdc8587125e21a32cdb61291/site2/website/contributing.md
> 
> Also reporting it here for convenience:
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ## Becoming a committer
> 
> Committers are community members that have write access to the project’s
> repositories, i.e., they can modify the code, documentation, and website
> by themselves and also accept other contributions.
> 
> There is no strict protocol for becoming a committer. Candidates for new
> committers are typically people that are active contributors and
> community members.
> 
> Being an active community member means participating on mailing list
> discussions, helping to answer questions, verifying release candidates,
> being respectful towards others, and following the meritocratic
> principles of community management. Since the
> [Apache Way](https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/)
> has a strong focus on the project community, this part is very important.
> 
> Of course, contributing code and documentation to the project is
> important as well. A good way to start is contributing improvements, new
> features, or bug fixes. You need to show that you take responsibility
> for the code that you contribute, add tests and documentation, and help
> maintaining it.
> 
> Candidates for new committers are suggested by current committers or PMC
> members, and voted upon by the PMC.
> 
> If you would like to become a committer, you should engage with the
> community and start contributing to Apache Pulsar in any of the above
> ways. You might also want to talk to other committers and ask for their
> advice and guidance.
> 
> ## Becoming member of PMC
> 
> The PMC is the project governance body. Committers or contributors that
> have demonstrated continued involvement with the community can be
> nominated to become members of the PMC.
> 
> PMC members nominate new contributors to the project as either
> committers or as new PMC members, and PMC members cast votes on electing
> new committers or PMC members to the project. PMC members also have
> binding votes on any project matters. Refer to
> [ASF PMCs governance](http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html)
> for a more detailed explanation of the duties and roles of the PMC.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
>> This is better and ties in with my main question above.
>> 
> 
> Created a separate PR to update the "team" page:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/pull/2470
> 
> Matteo
> --
> Matteo Merli
> <mme...@apache.org>

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