Stephan,
Thanks also from me for your careful analysis. I apologise to the extent
that I have contributed to the confusion.
Proper interworking between Word and Writer is crucial. Around 50% of
the problems referred to me over the past couple of years have been in
this area. Based on an email from a Sun employee which seemed to confirm
the graphics import issue as a regression, it seemed important to stop
communities with mixed usage upgrading. Explaining which documents you
could exchange and which not would have been too complex. Waiting the 7
weeks for 3.0.1 would have been better.
Of course we all appreciate the huge amount of effort put into 3.0 and
the new functionality. Nothing should take away from that. However,
several of my users will equally complain about anything that has
changed because it confuses them for a while and I wouldn't want to
compound that with a regression that they were very likely to experience.
I hope that helps to explain where I was coming from.
Mike
Stefan Baltzer wrote:
> Hi, All!
>
> I just spoke to Fredrik and he told me that the issue 93340 he mentioned
> is about Office 2003 XML EXPORT. So beside the number ("2003") it has
> nothing to do with the .doc graphics-lost-on-import problem that sparked
> this discussion.
>
> However,...
> ONE issue to discourage upgrading entirely? - This sounds very exaggerated.
> ONE issue overweighting all fixes and features, all developers blood
> sweat and tears on the road to OOo 3.0?
>
> Mhmm, exaggerated still does not sound like the best word for this
> view... :-(
>
>
> Here is my evaluation:
> Concerning the graphics, the document opens ALIKE in OOo 2.4.1 and OOo 3.0:
> - 2 graphics are not displayed, instead the second graphic is displayed
> three times.
> - Same findings when re-saving the document with MS Word 2002 or MS Word
> 2003(XP) before import
>
> This makes NO REGRESSION!
>
> Re-saved with the latest MS Word (2007) or with MS Word 2000, all
> graphics are shown correctly after import.
> Both OOo 2.4.1 and OOo 3.0. Again, this makes NO REGRESSION.
>
> Now, what about the document layout?
>
> The original document has 2 pages.
> Opened in OOo 2.4.1, it has 3 pages
> Opened in OOo 3.0, it has 2 pages
>
> -> Not a regression, but some kind of fixed issue!
>
> So if we reduce the recommendation of OOo 3.0 to this very case...
>
> ...we can recommend OOo 3.0 because it imports this document BETTER that
> OOo 2.4.1
>
> And after issuezilla decides do co-operate again, the problem will get
> evaluated and tracked.
>
> Regards,
> Stefan Baltzer
> QA Writer
>
>
> Mike Hall wrote:
>
>> This is certainly enough to discourage upgrade to 3.0 in any community
>> with a mixture of Word and Writer users, since Word XP is the usual
>> default format for exchange of documents. It isn't possible to check
>> just now, but I hope this issue is a stopper for 3.0.1.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Fredrik Haegg wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Unfortunately, this is a regression. I wrote an issue for it (i93340)
>>> but it wasn't flagged as a showstopper.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> / Fredrik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/08 04:44, Zhu Lihua wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Regina,
>>>>
>>>> I open the document with Ms-Office2003, and save it as another document.
>>>> then open it with OOo3.0RC4, the content is still not correct.
>>>> Which version of MS-Office are you using? I tried it with Ms-Office2007,
>>>> I got the same result as you said.
>>>>
>>>> The document is created with older version of Ms-Office, and we can find
>>>> some other documents like this. I think maybe this is not mistakes in the
>>>> document, but some differences between word 2003 and word 2007 which
>>>> OOo3.0 can not handle it correctly. I'm no developer, so I'm just guessing
>>>> if there is the possibility.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> ------------------
>>>> Lihua
>>>> 2008-10-14
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 发件人：Regina Henschel
>>>> 发送日期：2008-10-13 19:17:49
>>>> 收件人：dev
>>>> 抄送：
>>>> 主题：Re: [qa-dev] severe interoperability issue, can this stop the releaseof
>>>> OOo3.0 final?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Zhu Lihua,
>>>>
>>>> Zhu Lihua schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We found a severe interoperability issue. Data loss when open an MS
>>>>> document with pictures.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please open the document below with OOo3.0RC4. You'll find the first
>>>>> picture are lost, instead, there is a resized image of the 2nd
>>>>> picture. And the 2nd picture in page 2 is also replaced by a resized
>>>>> image of that picture.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sample document:
>>>>> http://ftp.ch2000.com.cn/tdftp/OpenOffice.org/qa/2.doc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It seems to be something wrong with the document. If I open it in Word
>>>> and save it without editing to a new name, the resulting document opens
>>>> fine in OOo3.0.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Regina
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