On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 12:09 -0400, Andrew Stitcher wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-06-22 at 19:07 -0400, Rafael Schloming wrote:
> > ...
> 
> > The code is nearing the point where a first release is in sight, and
> > this does raise two infrastructure questions.
> > 
> > 1) We'll need to do something for bug tracking.
> > 2) It would be extremely helpful to have an email list for proton users.
> 
> As against all the other opinions here I'm of the opinion that we
> already have a suitable low overhead mailing list for proton - this one
> (dev@qpid.apache.org).
> 
> I see no reason why you haven't already been using it for your proton
> discussions and I also would rather not balkanise qpid development by
> having a new developer list.
> 
> From the qpid dev list perspective the proton work has been effectively
> silent and so it can't be said that you've tried to use the dev list and
> it has failed in some way.
> 
> This list is not very busy as it is and so could easily cope with the
> extra emails and I think the cross fertilisation makes sense.
> 
> Someone suggested that this list is actually high bandwidth because of
> the jiras coming here too, personally I filter them away so they don't
> interfere with my own enjoyment of the list! I think the solution in
> that case is to create a different list for the jiras which probably
> don't add too much to the discussion on the list.
> 
> Why do we need a new list for proton?

The primary goal of Proton is to help grow the AMQP 1.0 ecosystem, and
obviously I'd like this to happen at Apache Qpid. I want everyone to use
Apache Qpid Proton to make their own product or project speak AMQP 1.0.
One of the big motivators for people to do this is that we can give
their customers or users access from a much wider range of platforms and
languages than they could provide on their own. This is beneficial for
AMQP, Qpid, and anyone integrating Proton. However, this becomes a much
harder sell if they need to direct their customers or users to their
competitors mailing list for support. It's pretty much a non starter for
a lot of people.

The fundamental issue here is that Qpid now needs to serve two
audiences. A very horizontal audience made up of pretty much anything
that might ever want to speak AMQP, and a more specialized, vertical
audience of people interested in a particular message broker.

--Rafael



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