On 11 February 2011 08:00, Zsolt Kúti <[email protected]> wrote: > Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:46:50 +0000 -n > Dan Creswell <[email protected]> írta: > > > Uhm, one more follow-up and I'll shut-up.... > No please, do not stop :-) > I like these discussions, see below. > > > Note this isn't about technical superiority, it's about mindset and > > education. Google GFS isn't particularly clever or technically > ... > > strategy). Thus I contend that it's not about whether or not > > developers are capable it's that they think differently. There's > This is (one of) my problem(s) and expect as a hindrance for others in > similar situation. > The mindset alone is not always enough. I feel lucky to finally > have an opportunity for doing real work with River. With no practical > experience with Jini (just read a lot), working alone with no one > knowledgable in the field I am at the mercy of my own capabilities. The > web, mailing lists are of great help, but the pieces of information of > making a _real_ system based on River scarce or non-existent. I am > uncertain what and how I do is the appropriate way of doing things. It >
When I say mindset, I include in that a desire to do some research (there is material out there) but also the awareness of suitable patterns and such. Note I'm not saying there isn't more to write but that material is an accelerator it's the mindset that provides the bootstrap from which people can do stuff. is hard to convince a boss to spend money on consultancy, mentorship > (which I see as the shortest path to get that knowledge) if the thing > is not something "serious" mainstream, but a thing they never even > This is also true, again though it's all about environment and these standard enterprise'y places are late adopters of genuinely new methods. Decent managers understand the value of sometimes avoiding run of the mill. I know that isn't the best news but I'd say what we're talking about here is still the "convert the masses or leave 'em to it" point. heard of. Without it the only way is going through the usual hurdles of > self-education which is not bad, but it is full of bitter experiences > and takes times mostly not torelable by a real project, or managers > even if they trust in you. Imagine when they are not even too > supporting... > > I somewhat agree equally from my own experience many of these managers are delusional - they believe that learning from bitter experiences isn't going on because they have "standard enterprise tools". That's BS, painful learning is there all the time (I might even argue more so with these tools), operations in particular has many lessons for people to learn or otherwise pain to put up with. Zsolt >
