On 12-02-14 17:00, Greg Trasuk wrote:

OK, fair enough.  I’ll close this issue and open another one that
just makes sure the jars aren’t in the source distribution (that _is_
an Apache requirement) without adding Ivy.

+1

In general, though, as we move to the build structure discussion, are
you OK with using dependency management.  I’m not big on putting
other people’s software distributions into our source repository,
especially if we’re going to see more dependencies as time goes on.

Yes, i'm ok. Clearly we are not gaining critical mass where it comes to gaining interest and new blood for much needed innovations and improvements. Whe cannot let Peter do the work on his own, and the longer we let Peter work in isolation, without bringing his work into the main trunk, the worse we are of.

So if we need to change things, i see the adoptition of popular tools as a way to enlist others to work on river. Gradle i view as a bit much, maven should be general knowledge nowadays. I still claim we can do without it, but if we need a popular (and therefore recocnizable feel) to increase the adoption, i'm all for it. The way it is going right now, is an agony to most i think.

Gr. Simon

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