I am asking what Network I/O you are doing in the readObject/writeObject
methods. Because to me I can't figure out any use-case where that is a
problem...

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 1:14 AM, "Michał Kłeczek (XPro Sp. z o. o.)" <
michal.klec...@xpro.biz> wrote:

> Don't know about other serialization uses but my issue with it is that it
> precludes using it in non-blocking IO.
> Sorry if I haven't been clear enough.
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>
> Thanks,
> Michal
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> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
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> And what I/O (network I/O I presume) are you doing during the serialization
> (without RMI)?
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> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:48 AM, "Michał Kłeczek (XPro Sp. z o. o.)" 
> <michal.klec...@xpro.biz> wrote:
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> It is not possible to do non-blocking as in "non blocking IO" - meaning -
> threads do not block on IO operations.
> Just google "C10K problem"
>
> Thanks,
> Michal
>
> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
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> I don't follow. What does readObject/writeObject got to do with blocking or
> not? You could spin up executors to do the work in parallel if you so wish.
> And why is "something else" less blocking? And what are you doing that is
> "blocking" since the "work" is (or should be) CPU only, there is limited
> (still) opportunity to do that non-blocking (whatever that would mean in
> CPU-only circumstance). Feel free to elaborate... I am curious.
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> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 8:38 PM, "Michał Kłeczek (XPro Sp. z o. o.)" 
> <michal.klec...@xpro.biz> <michal.klec...@xpro.biz>
>  wrote:
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> Unfortunately due to "writeObject" and "readObject" methods that have to
> be handled (to comply with the spec) - it is not possible to
> serialize/deserialize in a non-blocking fashion.
> So yes... - it is serialization per se.
>
> Thanks,
> Michal
>
> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
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> Oh, well that is not "Serialization" per se... No wonder i didn't get it.
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> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Peter <j...@zeus.net.au> <j...@zeus.net.au> 
> <j...@zeus.net.au> <j...@zeus.net.au> <j...@zeus.net.au> <j...@zeus.net.au> 
> <j...@zeus.net.au> <j...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
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> On 4/02/2017 9:09 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
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> but rather with the APIs - it is inherently blocking by design.
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> I am not sure I understand what you mean by that.
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> He means the client thread that makes the remote call blocks waiting for
> the remote end to process the request and respond.
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> Cheers,
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> Peter.
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