Hi Carlos, First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's changes.
Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in Royale sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect. I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to save much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But, IMO, the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of our code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align with the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the marketing site is something that should be managed outside of the project. Thanks, -Alex On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "[email protected] on behalf of Carlos Rovira" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: >Hi Om, > >when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can >make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited. >It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as our >"public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited. > >There's no way to match the website pages with markdown. > >But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end in >Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc... >And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very >happy. > >I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to >update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have >that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we >have that with GitHub) > > >2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <[email protected]>: > >> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches >> and PRs. >> >> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from >>Github >> urls. For example >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres >>s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C >>a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7 >>C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyDSDo6aX50kfXkU >>%3D&reserved=0 >> >> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can >>be on >> WP. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Om >> >> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]> >>wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things >> > done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes, >> and >> > uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication >> > >> > @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for >> > revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs) >> > regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is >>to >> : >> > >> > 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version) >> > 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme >>updates >> > that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on) >> > 3.- commit and push >> > 4.- wait for automatic publication >> > >> > But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > >> > >> > 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <[email protected]>: >> > >> > > Hi - >> > > >> > > Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content >>updates. >> > > Some may be in the template and other parts are content. >> > > >> > > Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make >> > changes. >> > > At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later >> either >> > > we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process, >>or >> > you >> > > would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then >> > published. >> > > This is what the Apache CMS can do. >> > > >> > > An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to >>create >> an >> > > RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS >>feed >> > into >> > > the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Dave >> > > >> > > > On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >> [email protected] >> > > >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Carlos, >> > > > >> > > > What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really >>good. >> > We >> > > > could apply them on our self. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, Piotr >> > > > >> > > > 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira >><[email protected]>: >> > > > >> > > >> Hi Om, >> > > >> >> > > >> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin >> and >> > > then >> > > >> exported and published. >> > > >> something out of this workflow will not be possible. >> > > >> >> > > >> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP >> > backend >> > > >> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some >>ways to >> > do >> > > >> that if there's enough interest. >> > > >> >> > > >> Thanks >> > > >> >> > > >> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala < >> [email protected] >> > >: >> > > >> >> > > >>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull >> Request >> > to >> > > >>> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c >>om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad >>obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >>cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FAmD >>pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0. >> > > >>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how >>the >> > > >> website >> > > >>> is being deployed? >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Thanks, >> > > >>> Om >> > > >>> >> > > >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira < >> > > [email protected] >> > > >>> >> > > >>> wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> Hi Andrew, >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> thanks for the revision! :) >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post >> > > directly >> > > >>> in >> > > >>>> this list, open a new thread >> > > >>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or >> something >> > > >> like >> > > >>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...) >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Thanks! >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki < >> > [email protected] >> > > >: >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that >>file >> to >> > > >>> some >> > > >>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull >> > > >> request >> > > >>> to >> > > >>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> [1] >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c >>om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad >>obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >>cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FAmD >>pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0 >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Thanks for that! :) >> > > >>>>> Piotr >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore >><[email protected]>: >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to >> create >> > > >>>> table >> > > >>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and >>share >> > > >> that. >> > > >>>> Can >> > > >>>>> I >> > > >>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list? >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >> > > >>>>> [email protected] >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> Hi Andrew, >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot >>it >> > > >> can >> > > >>> be >> > > >>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list. >> > > >>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1] >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> [1] >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro >>yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C >>a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7 >>C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3ReH6Vu4f41WSFs >>%3D&reserved=0 >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore < >> [email protected]> >> > > >>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> Excellent. >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. Is >> > > >>> someone >> > > >>>>>>> handling >> > > >>>>>>>> text tweaking? >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> < >> > > >>>>>>>> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas >>t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ado >>be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178dec >>ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXcA%2F >>Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0 >> > > >>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >> > > >>>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> Virus-free. >> > > >>>>>>>> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.avast.com&data=02% >>7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b >>34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2B5346DUDrUVRI >>w60rM8EmbUJ6vW3Hu51bwQoSK5b0Pw%3D&reserved=0 >> > > >>>>>>>> < >> > > >>>>>>>> >>https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas 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