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> On Jan 11, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Carlos Rovira <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Alex > > 2018-01-11 18:10 GMT+01:00 Alex Harui <[email protected]>: > >> Hi Carlos, >> >> First, thanks for getting the site published and applying Andrew's changes. >> > > thanks for your words :) > > >> >> Now you know another reason why I wanted to get the website done in Royale >> sooner. Then we could accept patches the way folks expect. >> > > Right, I'm with you, but I have fears of failing for be in the eye of > people too soon. > But hey! we are a community and I respect the global way of thinking of > release web ASAP :) > I think the majority use to be more accurate than only one brain ;) > > >> >> I understand that WordPress is very powerful and you were able to save >> much time to quickly get a great looking site together for us. But, IMO, >> the project's site on royale.a.o needs to be open like the rest of our >> code. I'm beginning to wonder if a marketing site is going to align with >> the ASF's expectations on project sites. It might be that the marketing >> site is something that should be managed outside of the project. >> > > Regarding this, this effort is to bring us more time to focus on what is > really important. > We need lots of things that are the real things people expect to see in > Royale. We need that ASAP. > If we don't get that, don't worry that we change the web for another, it'd > be a useless work. > > Now think that we get all the needed things in Royale working good, and > people like Royale. > Then we have more time to make what community wants we the site, since the > important task are done. > I only get you and others more time to focus on what's important (first > release, UI set, thumbing, forms, validation,...) > > In the other hand, I expect people (committers, PMCs, and others) to help > with website in the same way we do here > What if we have a middle step that is outside of this mailing list, Github, > or other tool? The important thing is that > the final result is committed to the Royale-website/asf-site repo. That's > is what Apache ask us to do. > > The WP instance is only a facility. If we remove them, people can still > modify the site. The only problem is that changes > will be less dramatic in terms of graphics, animations, layouts and more, > since is difficult and WP give us lots of resources > ready to use. But change content, make new pages, and more, could be done > by anyone without it. Think on this like a comparision > with an IDE vs notepad to code.... You can code the source you make in > notepad or in VSCode or Moonlight... > That's the same, we can be more productive with WP or less with notepad. > > The important thing is that we are here not to do that, we are here to make > Apache Royale! > And one thing is for sure, is very difficult to get the same result we have > now with something made by hand by us. > Simply is a huge task and not only dependent of the state of royale to make > website, is about to compite with years > of hundreds of people that give us something focused on make websites. > Where designers, coders, frontend programers, etc.. > have work. We don't have right now a team that could bring us a royale web > site that compites with the actual one, > but maybe in the future. > > Take the example of SEO. I put SEO working in almost no time, thanks to > Wordpress abilities. If you made this from scratch > you'll need to modify any page by hand one by one and test if that works > ok, and then iterate. Think about the same iteration I'm doing with Andrew > corrections, but multiplied by 100 since is not about content...is about > get an easy way to get things done as quickly as possible since, in the > end, > make a website is not our job. Our job is to make front end tech that in > the end be able to make our website. But this could happen in some years if > we get a product that people wants, and they allow us to reach that goal. > > That's only my opinion, and please don't think that I don't want you to try > to replicate the website in Royale. > I only want to be as honest as possible and let you know what I think, but > if you want to replicate the site, you are completely free to do. > For me the next task, now that I can to push to GitHub again, is to focus > on themeing and UI set. I think you are setting up an honest goal and a high bar! If Royale achieves this that will be a powerful measure of success! Regards, Dave > > Thanks! > > > >> >> Thanks, >> -Alex >> >> On 1/10/18, 2:37 PM, "[email protected] on behalf of Carlos Rovira" >> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Om, >>> >>> when we started the website I was making some research to see if we can >>> make things in markdown, but seems markdown is very limited. >>> It's great for the wiki and docs, but to make something more visual as our >>> "public face" or "marketing face", I think is very limited. >>> >>> There's no way to match the website pages with markdown. >>> >>> But the website is only an "entry point" for the visitors that will end in >>> Github Wiki page, Github reference page, Github issues page, etc... >>> And some of them are directly created and edited from GitHub. So I'm very >>> happy. >>> >>> I think is important to have a quick system that gives an easy way to >>> update the website and to get blog post and articles published (we have >>> that with WP backend), and the same for Wiki, Reference and Docs (and we >>> have that with GitHub) >>> >>> >>> 2018-01-10 23:28 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> In a perfect world, we will let content editors provide content, patches >>>> and PRs. >>>> >>>> There are wordpress plugins available that read markdown files from >>>> Github >>>> urls. For example >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fwordpres >>>> s.org%2Fplugins%2Fmytory-markdown%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com >> %7C >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7 >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=ePsTqOWiACt2VauGw0ilqt1PZI5uyD >> SDo6aX50kfXkU >>>> %3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> This way, the content can be in git and form(styles, images, etc) can >>>> be on >>>> WP. >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> Om >>>> >>>> On Jan 10, 2018 2:19 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> @Andrew, I ask you to make changes to the doc in order to check things >>>>> done, and comment if there's some questions. I introduced all changes, >>>> and >>>>> uploaded to git. We must wait until automatic publication >>>>> >>>>> @Dave, I can look for a way to make people make changes and ask for >>>>> revision (anyone out there) or give direct (committers and PMCs) >>>>> regarding more automation I see it more dificult since the process is >>>> to >>>> : >>>>> >>>>> 1.- Push Generate Button (to create the static version) >>>>> 2.- overlay with actual repo (there we can have content or theme >>>> updates >>>>> that fixes some things in layouts, css, etc... and so on) >>>>> 3.- commit and push >>>>> 4.- wait for automatic publication >>>>> >>>>> But that's no a problem for me needs human touch, but is easy to do. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2018-01-10 22:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi - >>>>>> >>>>>> Piotr has a good point. Please work with Andrew on the content >>>> updates. >>>>>> Some may be in the template and other parts are content. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regarding content it should be possible for any committer to make >>>>> changes. >>>>>> At first you will need to periodically do export and update. Later >>>> either >>>>>> we will have moved the site to Royale and be using a build process, >>>> or >>>>> you >>>>>> would setup an automated process into a staged site that is then >>>>> published. >>>>>> This is what the Apache CMS can do. >>>>>> >>>>>> An alternative approach that I have used at my former job is to >>>> create >>>> an >>>>>> RSS content feed in WP and then we can pull updates from the RSS >>>> feed >>>>> into >>>>>> the site. A custom feed is possible to retrieve metadata. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2018, at 1:25 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carlos, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think about Andrew changes. I think they are really >>>> good. >>>>> We >>>>>>> could apply them on our self. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2018-01-10 22:21 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira >>>> <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Om, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that's not possible. We're making all changes in WP through admin >>>> and >>>>>> then >>>>>>>> exported and published. >>>>>>>> something out of this workflow will not be possible. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, I could see some WP system for people to register in WP >>>>> backend >>>>>>>> and make changes and send for approval. I think there's some >>>> ways to >>>>> do >>>>>>>> that if there's enough interest. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 20:26 GMT+01:00 OmPrakash Muppirala < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>> : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think a better approach would be for Andrew to send a Pull >>>> Request >>>>> to >>>>>>>>> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site& >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58% >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA >> mD >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0. >>>>>>>>> Carlos/Piotr, is that possible, given the current state of how >>>> the >>>>>>>> website >>>>>>>>> is being deployed? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Om >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Carlos Rovira < >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the revision! :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you want to share only text, you could make a list and post >>>>>> directly >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> this list, open a new thread >>>>>>>>>> If you want to attach screenshots, you can upload a PDF or >>>> something >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>> that and share in a service you like (dropbox, google drive...) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:36 GMT+01:00 Piotr Zarzycki < >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Attached files would be also stripped out. Just upload that >>>> file >>>> to >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>> server Onedrive or something like that. You can also make pull >>>>>>>> request >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> the repository [1], branch asf-site. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.c >>>> om%2Fapache%2Froyale-website%2Ftree%2Fasf-site& >> data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40ad >>>> obe.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58% >> 7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >>>> cee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=%2Bi0llAekgvqB3H3fKDIKXfaSYj4FA >> mD >>>> pjO%2BkAOrYfY4%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for that! :) >>>>>>>>>>> Piotr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wetmore >>>> <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are quite a number of small issues. I would prefer to >>>> create >>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>> (existing text, proposed new text, and notes if any) and >>>> share >>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>> Can >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> just attach a Word doc to a message in this list? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are you seeing that text? If you send some screenshot >>>> it >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>> stripped out from the mailing list. >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can use nabble to post a screenshot [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fapache-ro >>>> yale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com >> %7C >>>> a1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> cee1%7C0%7 >>>> C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=cfL5hz54ZBeKEalD65USTMNyJMya3R >> eH6Vu4f41WSFs >>>> %3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Piotr >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018, 18:20 Andrew Wetmore < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excellent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> However...there is some pretty odd text here and there. 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>> https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avas >>>> t.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_&data=02% >> 7C01%7Caharui%40ado >>>> be.com%7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178de >> c >>>> ee1%7C0%7C0%7C636512207577582763&sdata=zGLhJrJxvfEXz6g4IHOhrLsjJ88FXc >> A%2F >>>> Qj4fZvV5lc8%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Piotr Zarzycki < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Carlos!!!!! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018-01-10 17:03 GMT+01:00 Carlos Rovira < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just say that Apache Royale website is live now! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 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>>>> 3&sdata=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carlos Rovira >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url= >> http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2 >>> Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com% >> 7Ca1f216958a024cbf47a408d5 >>> 587adb58%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0% >> 7C636512207577582763&s >>> data=bM6bxTZocwVztjQLK0gzjDIITY9nZ71DrKkhbmMEOe4%3D&reserved=0 >> >> > > > -- > Carlos Rovira > http://about.me/carlosrovira
