Hi Alex,

first congrats to reach to this point. After many months is great to
finally can release :)

I forked the thread to avoid mixing topics and let the discuss thread to
just discuss the RC2

I'll try RC2 soon, but first I want to talk about the inherent problem. I
know we are all here making a huge effort to make Royale work and shine,
and be release manager is to spend many hours working in that task, so
first I want to express as well a huge recognition to all RMs that tried to
make this happen before you. I still didn't try to make myself a release,
so I'm talking without the knowledge you all guys have, so sorry if I say
something inconvenient now, but just want to talk about the elephant in the
room, so we can improve the process from now own.

My perception, from a person that is still outside the release process,
still does not have all the knowledge and never was a RM is that the
process is not reliable. Again hope nobody feels that talk about this is
any kind of attack, just that if we agree on that, we could try to improve
for the better. Right now seems that only Alex can make a release happen
due to his machine configuration. I assume all RMs execute the RM
instructions, so the problem is not related to the instructions, but seems
more to the nature of how we build.

So, my question is, what we could change to ensure scripts and process are
reliable in all machines and doable by any of us?
Is the process a mix of maven and ant what is making this so hard to do?
Just a comment, could be the nature of ant (more single separated scripting
based on computer environment config vs structured building based on
building framework and servers) a problem?

I want to be a RM soon (hope to be available for this task around Feb-Mar
2019), so its clear I still can say a word about the process just start
this thread and hoping no one feels this as an attack (since I recognize
the huge effort done to reach this point), but just a way to start trying
to think with open mind and see that we have at least a thing to solve so
any of us can make the same as Alex do

Thanks in advance for your thoughts :)

Carlos





El mié., 14 nov. 2018 a las 19:46, Alex Harui (<[email protected]>)
escribió:

> This is the discussion thread.   RC1 was never put up for vote because
> there
> were issues with the notice files and build scripts when running from the
> packages and not the repo.
>
> Interestingly, the scripts ran just fine for me on my home Windows
> computer.
> I did not have the problems Om, Piotr, and Yishay had when uploading or
> downloading Maven artifacts.  Except when I tried watching videos while
> waiting for the scripts to run (the "maven" target takes 2 hours in
> Powershell, the "main" target took over an hour).   Then I would see
> uploads
> "hang".   So I would recommend to any future RMs to try to make sure the
> network is not otherwise too busy when running these scripts.
>
> Changes in this RC include:
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Alex Harui
>
>

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Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira

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