Hi Om,

(again talking from my no experience in the process), can this be the
problem that make RMs fail on the process? From the external point of a
viewer, this seems more related to scripting/manual issues. Normally Maven
steps are hard to get working, but once you got it, use to work for all
people. It seems to me like a more "industrial" process that should ensure
independence of platform and custom configurations.

Thanks for sharing

Carlos


El jue., 15 nov. 2018 a las 7:36, OmPrakash Muppirala (<bigosma...@gmail.com>)
escribió:

> Personally, I am not sure why we are uploading stuff to maven central as
> part of the RC process.  Can we simply bundle the source files and create a
> release candidate?  Folks who want to test maven can run the maven scripts
> locally which would copy stuff to the local .m2 repo instead.
> That way we dont force maven on folks who dont need it.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:54 PM Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Alex,
> >
> > first congrats to reach to this point. After many months is great to
> > finally can release :)
> >
> > I forked the thread to avoid mixing topics and let the discuss thread to
> > just discuss the RC2
> >
> > I'll try RC2 soon, but first I want to talk about the inherent problem. I
> > know we are all here making a huge effort to make Royale work and shine,
> > and be release manager is to spend many hours working in that task, so
> > first I want to express as well a huge recognition to all RMs that tried
> to
> > make this happen before you. I still didn't try to make myself a release,
> > so I'm talking without the knowledge you all guys have, so sorry if I say
> > something inconvenient now, but just want to talk about the elephant in
> the
> > room, so we can improve the process from now own.
> >
> > My perception, from a person that is still outside the release process,
> > still does not have all the knowledge and never was a RM is that the
> > process is not reliable. Again hope nobody feels that talk about this is
> > any kind of attack, just that if we agree on that, we could try to
> improve
> > for the better. Right now seems that only Alex can make a release happen
> > due to his machine configuration. I assume all RMs execute the RM
> > instructions, so the problem is not related to the instructions, but
> seems
> > more to the nature of how we build.
> >
> > So, my question is, what we could change to ensure scripts and process
> are
> > reliable in all machines and doable by any of us?
> > Is the process a mix of maven and ant what is making this so hard to do?
> > Just a comment, could be the nature of ant (more single separated
> scripting
> > based on computer environment config vs structured building based on
> > building framework and servers) a problem?
> >
> > I want to be a RM soon (hope to be available for this task around Feb-Mar
> > 2019), so its clear I still can say a word about the process just start
> > this thread and hoping no one feels this as an attack (since I recognize
> > the huge effort done to reach this point), but just a way to start trying
> > to think with open mind and see that we have at least a thing to solve so
> > any of us can make the same as Alex do
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your thoughts :)
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > El mié., 14 nov. 2018 a las 19:46, Alex Harui (<aha...@earthlink.net>)
> > escribió:
> >
> > > This is the discussion thread.   RC1 was never put up for vote because
> > > there
> > > were issues with the notice files and build scripts when running from
> the
> > > packages and not the repo.
> > >
> > > Interestingly, the scripts ran just fine for me on my home Windows
> > > computer.
> > > I did not have the problems Om, Piotr, and Yishay had when uploading or
> > > downloading Maven artifacts.  Except when I tried watching videos while
> > > waiting for the scripts to run (the "maven" target takes 2 hours in
> > > Powershell, the "main" target took over an hour).   Then I would see
> > > uploads
> > > "hang".   So I would recommend to any future RMs to try to make sure
> the
> > > network is not otherwise too busy when running these scripts.
> > >
> > > Changes in this RC include:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alex Harui
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
>


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