Yes, I agree with Alex about not being able to run UI out of docker containers. I never thought of the checkintests when I made the suggestion.
The firefox-flash image that Yishay pointed out looks promising. I will poke around with it and see if that works for us. Thanks, Om On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:41 AM Yishay Weiss <yishayj...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I’ll let Om or someone else with docker experience tell us if this [1] is > relevant. > > > > [1] https://hub.docker.com/r/beli/firefox-flash/ > > > > ________________________________ > From: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:05:54 AM > To: dev@royale.apache.org > Subject: Re: 0.9.6 Release > > I don't anything about docker, but in 15 minutes of reading I ran into > this: > > https://www.channelfutures.com/open-source/when-not-to-use-docker-understanding-the-limitations-of-containers > > Which says: Docker can't " Run applications with graphical interfaces". > If you want Royale to use Docker for releases, show that it can run > checkintests with Flash and the Browser. Then I will look into it more. > > The highest level goal is to make it as easy as possible for someone to > volunteer to be an RM. Any requirement of "install this (Docker, etc) on > your computer" is, IMO, another barrier to entry. Yeah, RMs will have to > have Maven installed and maybe Ant, but you should already have those > installed to be a committer/PMC member. > > That said, a good takeaway from the Docker idea is to try to find a way to > make an "Image" of whatever we end up with on whatever server we end up > using so if the image can be copied and used on other servers. I'm not > exactly sure how to do that with Azure, which hosts my CI server. I will > spend a few more minutes researching that. > > I could not quickly find any way to get a free VM on Azure or AWS that > isn't a free-trial-start-paying-after-a-year. So, unless someone comes up > with a free server we can use "forever", I'm going to just start with my > Azure VM. > > -Alex > > On 2/5/19, 10:59 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi. > > the plan sounds very good to me. Just my 2 thoughts on this: > > 1.- As I was reading I was thinking as well on something like Docker > and > see Om as well thinking on the same. Maybe is the way to this with the > actual technology. Seems VMs are stepping out a bit this days in favor > of > things like Docker. Maybe the same did Git over Svn, and today Svn is > an > old remembrance. I must say that I have no experience with Docker, so > doing > that will require acquire that knowledge, but seems it could be worth > it. > > 2.- Maybe is not possible, but I want to propose to do this work I a > separate branch, so it could be in parallel to other developments. I > think > work over develop is practical if there's something tiny that could be > done > in a commit. But as we need more than one, or is a long process (like > this), chances are to make develop branch unstable and even for some > days. > I think we should try to avoid that scenario, and branches are the best > way. If we do this way, we'll benefit of more reliable develop branch. > > Thanks and good to know of this plan :) > > Carlos > > > El mar., 5 feb. 2019 a las 23:19, Harbs (<harbs.li...@gmail.com>) > escribió: > > > I’ve never used Docker myself, but that might be a good plan. > > > > > On Feb 6, 2019, at 12:07 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala < > bigosma...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > I was wondering if we can use docker images to setup and seal the > RM > > > environment. Then other RMs simply need to run the image locally > and run > > > the release scripts. Might be easier. If folks like this plan, I > can > > try > > > to put something together. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Om > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:40 PM Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > >> In a recent discussion, it looks like other projects have gotten > > resources > > >> from AWS. > > >> > > >> Whatever service we use, could setup a “shared” Royale account > that all > > >> PMC members could have access to. > > >> > > >> I don’t know if there’s some way we could leverage Gitlab’s > integration > > >> pipelines > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.gitlab.com%2Fee%2Fci%2FREADME.html&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cef2b34e531be41983c1208d68c009d75%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636850331599744364&sdata=ux3NQZcnILfobRoGhlxI509Z30JI2Tba4O%2FDxWFii9w%3D&reserved=0 > < > > >> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.gitlab.com%2Fee%2Fci%2FREADME.html&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cef2b34e531be41983c1208d68c009d75%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636850331599744364&sdata=ux3NQZcnILfobRoGhlxI509Z30JI2Tba4O%2FDxWFii9w%3D&reserved=0 > > > > >> > > >>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:33 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID > > > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Well, the big hole in this plan is that I think we have to use > > someone's > > >> personal VM account (in this case, mine). I can't think of a way > we can > > >> run interactive commands like git push on builds@. But that > reminds me > > >> to go see what are current options are for free/cheap compute > servers. > > >>> > > >>> On 2/5/19, 1:20 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Sounds like best plan ever. Using the same PC by everyone is > awesome! > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 8:39 PM Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> A big +1 from me! > > >>>> > > >>>> Looking forward! > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Alex Harui > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hi, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> We are coming up on 3 months since 0.9.4. I have finished the > > changes > > >>>> to get production Royale modules to work in Tour De Flex. Lots > of > > other > > >>>> good changes have been contributed. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> There were emails around the 0.9.4 release about others > stepping up > > to > > >>>> cut the next release, but that hasn't happened. I tried and > failed to > > >> get > > >>>> Apache Infra to allow us to run our release packaging on the > Jenkins > > >>>> servers. They felt there were too many security concerns with > having > > >> the > > >>>> servers push changes to Git and PGP sign artifacts. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> However, we MUST find a way for other RMs to be successful. > There is > > >> no > > >>>> way I should or want to be the only RM. But I have an idea that > > >> involves > > >>>> creating a long list of Jenkins jobs on my CI server that add > up to > > the > > >>>> release. The RM would log into Jenkins and run some job titled > > "Apache > > >>>> Royale Release Step 1", then wait for an email indicating that > it > > >> completed > > >>>> and follow instructions in the email, such as logging into the > CI > > server > > >>>> via Remote Desktop, opening a command prompt and running "git > push" > > and > > >>>> entering his/her username and password. Then run the next job > and so > > >> on. > > >>>> There will be a point where the RM has to download the build > > artifacts, > > >>>> verify them, then PGP sign them, and upload them. That will be > a > > likely > > >>>> point of failure, but that step should be a single Maven > command and > > >> thus > > >>>> can be restarted until it finally succeeds. Then more Jenkins > jobs > > >> will be > > >>>> run. But if this works then folks won't have to setup their > computers > > >> to > > >>>> be an RM. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So, prepare for lots of commits and reverts as I try to put > this > > >>>> together. I'm guessing it won't actually work until the last > week of > > >>>> February at the earliest so there is no big rush to get other > stuff in > > >> for > > >>>> this release, and if we get it to work, hopefully we'll release > more > > >> often > > >>>> with other folks being the RM. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -Alex > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > Carlos Rovira > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cef2b34e531be41983c1208d68c009d75%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636850331599744364&sdata=%2BBjFv4hgPoVNn5ymJnenJAvPkkTJzZx%2FeXfMtSpogEE%3D&reserved=0 > > >
