Hi Om, that would be great! waiting for your experience with a that! :) El mié., 6 feb. 2019 a las 19:31, OmPrakash Muppirala (<bigosma...@gmail.com>) escribió:
> Yes, I agree with Alex about not being able to run UI out of docker > containers. I never thought of the checkintests when I made the > suggestion. > > The firefox-flash image that Yishay pointed out looks promising. I will > poke around with it and see if that works for us. > > Thanks, > Om > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:41 AM Yishay Weiss <yishayj...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > I’ll let Om or someone else with docker experience tell us if this [1] is > > relevant. > > > > > > > > [1] https://hub.docker.com/r/beli/firefox-flash/ > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:05:54 AM > > To: dev@royale.apache.org > > Subject: Re: 0.9.6 Release > > > > I don't anything about docker, but in 15 minutes of reading I ran into > > this: > > > > > https://www.channelfutures.com/open-source/when-not-to-use-docker-understanding-the-limitations-of-containers > > > > Which says: Docker can't " Run applications with graphical interfaces". > > If you want Royale to use Docker for releases, show that it can run > > checkintests with Flash and the Browser. Then I will look into it more. > > > > The highest level goal is to make it as easy as possible for someone to > > volunteer to be an RM. Any requirement of "install this (Docker, etc) on > > your computer" is, IMO, another barrier to entry. Yeah, RMs will have to > > have Maven installed and maybe Ant, but you should already have those > > installed to be a committer/PMC member. > > > > That said, a good takeaway from the Docker idea is to try to find a way > to > > make an "Image" of whatever we end up with on whatever server we end up > > using so if the image can be copied and used on other servers. I'm not > > exactly sure how to do that with Azure, which hosts my CI server. I will > > spend a few more minutes researching that. > > > > I could not quickly find any way to get a free VM on Azure or AWS that > > isn't a free-trial-start-paying-after-a-year. So, unless someone comes > up > > with a free server we can use "forever", I'm going to just start with my > > Azure VM. > > > > -Alex > > > > On 2/5/19, 10:59 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > the plan sounds very good to me. Just my 2 thoughts on this: > > > > 1.- As I was reading I was thinking as well on something like Docker > > and > > see Om as well thinking on the same. Maybe is the way to this with > the > > actual technology. Seems VMs are stepping out a bit this days in > favor > > of > > things like Docker. Maybe the same did Git over Svn, and today Svn is > > an > > old remembrance. I must say that I have no experience with Docker, so > > doing > > that will require acquire that knowledge, but seems it could be worth > > it. > > > > 2.- Maybe is not possible, but I want to propose to do this work I a > > separate branch, so it could be in parallel to other developments. I > > think > > work over develop is practical if there's something tiny that could > be > > done > > in a commit. But as we need more than one, or is a long process (like > > this), chances are to make develop branch unstable and even for some > > days. > > I think we should try to avoid that scenario, and branches are the > best > > way. If we do this way, we'll benefit of more reliable develop > branch. > > > > Thanks and good to know of this plan :) > > > > Carlos > > > > > > El mar., 5 feb. 2019 a las 23:19, Harbs (<harbs.li...@gmail.com>) > > escribió: > > > > > I’ve never used Docker myself, but that might be a good plan. > > > > > > > On Feb 6, 2019, at 12:07 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala < > > bigosma...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I was wondering if we can use docker images to setup and seal the > > RM > > > > environment. Then other RMs simply need to run the image locally > > and run > > > > the release scripts. Might be easier. If folks like this plan, > I > > can > > > try > > > > to put something together. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Om > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 1:40 PM Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> In a recent discussion, it looks like other projects have gotten > > > resources > > > >> from AWS. > > > >> > > > >> Whatever service we use, could setup a “shared” Royale account > > that all > > > >> PMC members could have access to. > > > >> > > > >> I don’t know if there’s some way we could leverage Gitlab’s > > integration > > > >> pipelines > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.gitlab.com%2Fee%2Fci%2FREADME.html&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cef2b34e531be41983c1208d68c009d75%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636850331599744364&sdata=ux3NQZcnILfobRoGhlxI509Z30JI2Tba4O%2FDxWFii9w%3D&reserved=0 > > < > > > >> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.gitlab.com%2Fee%2Fci%2FREADME.html&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cef2b34e531be41983c1208d68c009d75%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636850331599744364&sdata=ux3NQZcnILfobRoGhlxI509Z30JI2Tba4O%2FDxWFii9w%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > >> > > > >>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:33 PM, Alex Harui > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Well, the big hole in this plan is that I think we have to use > > > someone's > > > >> personal VM account (in this case, mine). I can't think of a > way > > we can > > > >> run interactive commands like git push on builds@. But that > > reminds me > > > >> to go see what are current options are for free/cheap compute > > servers. > > > >>> > > > >>> On 2/5/19, 1:20 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" < > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Sounds like best plan ever. Using the same PC by everyone is > > awesome! > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 8:39 PM Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> A big +1 from me! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Looking forward! > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Alex Harui > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Hi, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> We are coming up on 3 months since 0.9.4. I have finished > the > > > changes > > > >>>> to get production Royale modules to work in Tour De Flex. > Lots > > of > > > other > > > >>>> good changes have been contributed. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> There were emails around the 0.9.4 release about others > > stepping up > > > to > > > >>>> cut the next release, but that hasn't happened. I tried and > > failed to > > > >> get > > > >>>> Apache Infra to allow us to run our release packaging on the > > Jenkins > > > >>>> servers. They felt there were too many security concerns with > > having > > > >> the > > > >>>> servers push changes to Git and PGP sign artifacts. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> However, we MUST find a way for other RMs to be successful. > > There is > > > >> no > > > >>>> way I should or want to be the only RM. But I have an idea > that > > > >> involves > > > >>>> creating a long list of Jenkins jobs on my CI server that add > > up to > > > the > > > >>>> release. The RM would log into Jenkins and run some job > titled > > > "Apache > > > >>>> Royale Release Step 1", then wait for an email indicating that > > it > > > >> completed > > > >>>> and follow instructions in the email, such as logging into the > > CI > > > server > > > >>>> via Remote Desktop, opening a command prompt and running "git > > push" > > > and > > > >>>> entering his/her username and password. Then run the next job > > and so > > > >> on. > > > >>>> There will be a point where the RM has to download the build > > > artifacts, > > > >>>> verify them, then PGP sign them, and upload them. That will > be > > a > > > likely > > > >>>> point of failure, but that step should be a single Maven > > command and > > > >> thus > > > >>>> can be restarted until it finally succeeds. Then more Jenkins > > jobs > > > >> will be > > > >>>> run. But if this works then folks won't have to setup their > > computers > > > >> to > > > >>>> be an RM. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> So, prepare for lots of commits and reverts as I try to put > > this > > > >>>> together. I'm guessing it won't actually work until the last > > week of > > > >>>> February at the earliest so there is no big rush to get other > > stuff in > > > >> for > > > >>>> this release, and if we get it to work, hopefully we'll > release > > more > > > >> often > > > >>>> with other folks being the RM. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -Alex > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Carlos Rovira > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Cef2b34e531be41983c1208d68c009d75%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636850331599744364&sdata=%2BBjFv4hgPoVNn5ymJnenJAvPkkTJzZx%2FeXfMtSpogEE%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > > -- Carlos Rovira http://about.me/carlosrovira
