includeInLayout actually removes the object from the structure when not 
included.

I guess theoretically this can mean a simpler structure, but to me visible is 
better because:

1. There’s less overhead on adding and removing.
2. With includeInLayout there’s more chance of getting RTEs when the element 
does not exist, while with visible, it exists even when not computed for layout.

> On Apr 8, 2019, at 12:27 AM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> sorry, but I invert what I want to say. We currently have:
> 
> visible: this is like includeInLayout + visible  in flex since it changes
> "display" between "none" and "block" or "flex" right?
> if I put visible to false, display is "none", and this makes the object
> disappear from screen and also don't compute in html layout, so in flex
> will be like visible=false and includeInLayout= false
> if I put visible to true, display is "block"/"flex", and this makes the
> object visible in screen and depending on things like position compute in
> layout,
> so in flex will be like visible=true and includeInLayout= true
> This use to be the main use we all do most of the times.
> 
> in the other hand we have "visibility", that makes the object not visible
> but included in layout (still is there occupying some space in screen)
> so in flex will be like visible=true or false but includeInLayout= true
> always.
> 
> I found this useful under certain circumstances. For example in Wizard I'm
> adding transitions and navigation buttons should better maintain the space
> but disappear, instead of make the slide grow or shrink. So I think this
> will be useful for others.
> 
> Maybe since we did visible not equal to flex, now "includeInLayout" has no
> sense.. but still a bead for "visibility" can be useful
> 
> @Piotr: don't think I understand correctly your message. You say
> Disable/Enable is for visibility?
> 
> 
> 
> El dom., 7 abr. 2019 a las 16:26, Harbs (<harbs.li...@gmail.com>) escribió:
> 
>> Why not just use “visible”?
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> we can get flex "includedInLayout" using css "visibility" property (with
>>> visible/hidden)
>>> 
>>> I suppose it's not in UIBase for if PAYG reasons, so I can add it as a
>> bead
>>> if there's no other proposal.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Carlos Rovira
>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira

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