I see. I was waiting for the build to be fixed before moving it over. Or have folks run into a dead-end trying to figure out what is wrong with royale-asjs ?
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:03 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote: > Also, once royale-asjs completes, it is going to kick off lots of other > jobs on agent 1 that will compete with the release jobs. Ideally, all > non-release jobs would be moved over to the new agent VM. > > -Alex > > On 4/20/20, 10:55 PM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote: > > Yes, royale-asjs (which is currently building on agent1 and blocking > the release job). > > -Alex > > On 4/20/20, 10:53 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Update - royale-asjs_jsonly successfully build on my agent VM. > > Right now, we have 3 jobs running on this VM: > 1. royale-asjs_jsonly > 2. royale-compiler > 3. royale-typedefs > > Are there any other jobs we need to move to the new agent? > > Yishay, can you please confirm that your release jobs are running > without > being hindered by CI jobs? > > Thanks, > Om > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:05 AM OmPrakash Muppirala < > bigosma...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:01 AM Alex Harui > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > > wrote: > > > >> I see compiler-jx/lib in the Workspace for royale-compiler on > my VM. If > >> you are talking about your VM, you can compare console output > from recent > >> successful builds on both VMs. > >> > >> > > I was talking about my VM. > > A rebuild of royale-compiler seems to have fixed that problem. > Now > > royale-typedefs passes as well! > > > > Next up royale-asjs_jsonly... > > > > > >> I'm done for tonight. Good luck, > >> -Alex > >> > >> On 4/19/20, 11:50 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" < > bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:37 PM Alex Harui > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Royale-compiler has to be built first. This is an > example of shared > >> > resources that I mentioned upthread. Royale-typedefs is > going to > >> look for > >> > a sibling workspace folder called royale-compiler with a > built of > >> > royale-compiler in it. If royale-compiler fails to > create all of > >> its > >> > binaries or is in the process of building them, > royale-typedefs > >> will report > >> > an error. > >> > > >> > >> Got it. I was just looking at the logic here: > >> > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fapache%2Froyale-typedefs%2Fblob%2F85c74dde104294a0127ce46a8795d7534216e7eb%2Fjs%2Fbuild.xml%23L53&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126971265&sdata=QPt6lvVwPBgoVhmAg8%2B%2FeiBxjq9%2FHYLreIG2brTGfuE%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> Weird. The royale-compiler build says it was successful, > but I cant > >> find > >> the lib directory under > >> C:\jenkins\workspace\royale-compiler\compiler-jx > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > What should probably happen is that royale-typedefs pulls > down the > >> > lastsuccessfulartifacts from royale-compiler, but I've > never found > >> enough > >> > time and energy to try to make changes like that since > most of us > >> do have > >> > all of the folders as siblings. > >> > > >> > HTH, > >> > -Alex > >> > > >> > On 4/19/20, 11:31 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" < > bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > I am now getting this error on royale-typedefs build: > >> > > >> > BUILD > FAILEDc:\jenkins\workspace\royale-typedefs\build.xml:58: > >> The > >> > following error occurred while executing this line: > >> > c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-typedefs\js\build.xml:91: > src > >> > > >> > > >> > 'c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-typedefs\js\${ROYALE_TRANSPILER_HOME}\lib\google\closure-compiler\compiler.jar' > >> > doesn't exist. > >> > > >> > > >> > Where does the ROYALE_TRANSPILER_HOME var come from? > >> > > >> > Here is the full console output: > >> > > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapacheroyaleci2.westus2.cloudapp.azure.com%3A8080%2Fview%2FAgent%25202%2520&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126981256&sdata=CgDdnMTfn3BVaF5eLt%2BX4rAX3gdpsb4MPT4jR97aLB8%3D&reserved=0(Om's%20VM)/job/royale-typedefs/552/console > >> > > >> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:24 PM OmPrakash Muppirala < > >> > bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:08 PM Alex Harui > >> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid > >> > > > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Congratulations! But does that mean that > JAVA_HOME is > >> pointing at > >> > a JRE > >> > >> instead of a JDK? If you have other issues that > might be a > >> factor. > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > Yeah, I messed up initially by getting the JRE > instead of > >> JDK. I > >> > have > >> > > since corrected it. But for some reason Ant still > thinks that > >> > JAVA_HOME is > >> > > the jre directory. > >> > > I don't know how to fix this, hence the hack :-| > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> HTH, > >> > >> -Alex > >> > >> > >> > >> On 4/19/20, 10:50 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" < > >> bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> I copied tools.jar from jdk/lib to the > jre/lib. That > >> seems to > >> > have > >> > >> fixed > >> > >> the issue. > >> > >> We now have a successful build of the > royale-compiler on > >> the > >> > new Agent > >> > >> machine!! > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:44 PM OmPrakash > Muppirala < > >> > >> bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > Restart dint help. Although Serkan's reply > made me > >> look at > >> > how Ant > >> > >> was > >> > >> > getting invoked. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > I see this warning that tools.jar is missing: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > [royale-compiler] $ cmd.exe /C > >> > >> "C:\apache\apache-ant-1.9.9\bin\ant.bat -file > jenkins.xml > >> > >> -Denv.ASJS_HOME=C:\jenkins\workspace\royale-asjs > main && exit > >> > >> %%ERRORLEVEL%%" > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find > it in > >> C:\Program > >> > >> Files\Java\jre1.8.0_251\lib\tools.jar > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > I am pretty sure this is related to this > issue. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:29 PM OmPrakash > Muppirala < > >> > >> bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> > >> > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:15 PM Alex Harui > >> > >> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > >> > >> >> wrote: > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> Did you reboot your VM? Also, have you > checked what > >> user is > >> > >> running > >> > >> >>> Jenkins on your VM? I think that can > sometimes be a > >> > problem. I > >> > >> might be > >> > >> >>> running Jenkins as the user. > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >> Agents don't require Jenkins to be > running. I will > >> give the > >> > >> rebooting of > >> > >> >> the VM a shot . > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> > >> >> Om > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >>> -Alex > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> On 4/19/20, 10:01 PM, "OmPrakash > Muppirala" < > >> > bigosma...@gmail.com > >> > >> > > >> > >> >>> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 9:55 PM Alex > Harui > >> > >> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > >> > >> >>> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > Should be here: > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapacheroyaleci2.westus2.cloudapp.azure.com%3A8080%2FconfigureTools%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126981256&sdata=wmUYQ8yANnUuo4i%2F7FXqjsPwQzd4bL%2Bh4gUoR3xa%2BIA%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> My git is located in the same exact > location as > >> master. > >> > >> >>> Moreover, the git call from the > commandline > >> executes > >> > fine. > >> > >> The git > >> > >> >>> call > >> > >> >>> from ant exec is what is failing. > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > HTH, > >> > >> >>> > -Alex > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > From: OmPrakash Muppirala < > >> bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> > >> >>> > Reply-To: "dev@royale.apache.org" < > >> > dev@royale.apache.org> > >> > >> >>> > Date: Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:37 > PM > >> > >> >>> > To: Apache Royale Development < > >> dev@royale.apache.org> > >> > >> >>> > Subject: Re: Prioritize Release Jobs > on CI > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > I'm a bit stumped here. The > royale-compiler is > >> > failing > >> > >> with this > >> > >> >>> error: > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > BUILD FAILED > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-compiler\jenkins.xml:55: > >> > Execute > >> > >> >>> failed: > >> > >> >>> > java.io.IOException: Cannot run > program "git" > >> (in > >> > directory > >> > >> >>> > > "c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-compiler"): > >> CreateProcess > >> > >> error=2, > >> > >> >>> The system > >> > >> >>> > cannot find the file specified > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > at > java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(Unknown > >> Source) > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > It is from this part of the > jenkins.xml: > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > <target > name="closure-lib-download" > >> > description="Copies > >> > >> Closure > >> > >> >>> > Library from GitHub"> > >> > >> >>> > <echo message="Be patient. > This takes > >> a few > >> > >> minutes..." /> > >> > >> >>> > <exec executable="git" > >> > failifexecutionfails="true"> > >> > >> >>> > <arg value="clone" /> > >> > >> >>> > <arg value=" > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgoogle%2Fclosure-library&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126981256&sdata=aaSDpyVpWdqmVar4s8SJuKUDYRzuhwQ8J6%2BZCcpO56c%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> >>> < > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgoogle%2Fclosure-library&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126981256&sdata=aaSDpyVpWdqmVar4s8SJuKUDYRzuhwQ8J6%2BZCcpO56c%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> >>> >" > >> > >> >>> > /> > >> > >> >>> > <arg > value="${closure.root}" /> > >> > >> >>> > </exec> > >> > >> >>> > <echo>Cloned fresh copy of > Google > >> Closure > >> > >> Library</echo> > >> > >> >>> > </target> > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > I am not sure how this executable > call works > >> without > >> > the > >> > >> full path. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > I checked the env variables, I do > have both the > >> > git/bin and > >> > >> git/cmd > >> > >> >>> > directory in the PATH: > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > [cid:ii_k97zkk9o0] > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > What am I missing? > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > Om > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 11:54 PM > OmPrakash > >> Muppirala < > >> > >> >>> bigosma...@gmail.com > >> > >> >>> > <mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > Update - I have successfully > attached my VM as > >> a slave > >> > >> agent of our > >> > >> >>> > Jenkins instance. > >> > >> >>> > I am going to pull the job - > >> /royale-asjs_jsonly and > >> > tie it > >> > >> to my > >> > >> >>> agent so > >> > >> >>> > I can test it. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > It will fail for a sometime while I > go set up > >> my VM > >> > with > >> > >> all the > >> > >> >>> > dependencies. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > Once we have the job successfully > building on > >> my VM, > >> > we can > >> > >> figure > >> > >> >>> out how > >> > >> >>> > to divide the load between the > master and > >> agent. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > Om > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:59 AM > OmPrakash > >> Muppirala < > >> > >> >>> bigosma...@gmail.com > >> > >> >>> > <mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > We could achieve the same by > creating a new > >> agent > >> > (separate > >> > >> vm) and > >> > >> >>> > attaching it as a slave to the > current Jenkins > >> server. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > Then we can use labels/tags to tie > release > >> jobs to one > >> > >> agent and > >> > >> >>> non > >> > >> >>> > release jobs to another agent. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > That way we can maintain everything > in one UI, > >> one > >> > login > >> > >> while > >> > >> >>> achieving > >> > >> >>> > the concurrent building capabilities > we want. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > Jenkins is built for this kind of > stuff and I > >> think it > >> > >> would be > >> > >> >>> best we > >> > >> >>> > followed this practice. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > Om > >> > >> >>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 8:18 AM Alex > Harui > >> > >> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > >> > >> >>> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > Om, I thought you were going to get > the image > >> from my > >> > VM > >> > >> and run > >> > >> >>> it on > >> > >> >>> > another VM. Then we'd remove all > non-release > >> jobs > >> > from > >> > >> your VM > >> > >> >>> and all of > >> > >> >>> > the release jobs from my VM. That > won't solve > >> the > >> > problem > >> > >> of how > >> > >> >>> long it > >> > >> >>> > takes for a commit to be built and > tested, but > >> will > >> > allow > >> > >> the RM > >> > >> >>> to get a > >> > >> >>> > release out without getting stuck > behind the > >> commit > >> > jobs. > >> > >> Is that > >> > >> >>> > currently the plan? > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > -Alex > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > On 4/18/20, 12:43 AM, "OmPrakash > Muppirala" < > >> > >> bigosma...@gmail.com > >> > >> >>> <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > bigosma...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > Makes sense to me. I will set > parallel > >> executors > >> > back > >> > >> to 1. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > And start working on a new > Jenkins > >> instance. > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > Om > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 12:28 AM > Alex Harui > >> > >> >>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > >> > >> >>> > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > Are you saying that Java, Ant > and Maven > >> do not > >> > know > >> > >> how to > >> > >> >>> > distribute work > >> > >> >>> > > to different cores? > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > To repeat my main concern: > our Jenkins > >> jobs > >> > often > >> > >> use shared > >> > >> >>> > resources. > >> > >> >>> > > If you want to take the time > to fix > >> that, feel > >> > free, > >> > >> but I > >> > >> >>> do not > >> > >> >>> > know how > >> > >> >>> > > you are going to keep two jobs > from both > >> trying > >> > to > >> > >> launch > >> > >> >>> Flash > >> > >> >>> > Player > >> > >> >>> > > Debugger at the same time and > open the > >> same > >> > socket to > >> > >> >>> communicate > >> > >> >>> > with it, > >> > >> >>> > > or try to parse the > flashlog.txt that > >> they have > >> > both > >> > >> written > >> > >> >>> to. > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > The royale-asjs job will use > the > >> royale-compiler > >> > >> workspace > >> > >> >>> to get the > >> > >> >>> > > compiler. If the compiler is > building, > >> the > >> > jars are > >> > >> not > >> > >> >>> there and > >> > >> >>> > the > >> > >> >>> > > royale-asjs build fails. > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > There is also only so much > memory and > >> some of > >> > our > >> > >> jobs use > >> > >> >>> all of it > >> > >> >>> > and > >> > >> >>> > > I'm not sure if jobs slowed > down due to > >> paging > >> > memory > >> > >> and > >> > >> >>> > writing/reading > >> > >> >>> > > from disk, even if it is an > SSD. > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > I'm done for tonight, but > that's what I > >> was > >> > seeing > >> > >> last time > >> > >> >>> I tried > >> > >> >>> > to > >> > >> >>> > > have both master and an agent > running > >> jobs in > >> > >> parallel. > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > > -Alex > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > On 4/17/20, 11:52 PM, > "OmPrakash > >> Muppirala" < > >> > >> >>> bigosma...@gmail.com > >> > >> >>> > <mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > A typical setup would be > to have 0 > >> > executors on > >> > >> master > >> > >> >>> and at > >> > >> >>> > least n > >> > >> >>> > > number of executors on > each agent, > >> where n = > >> > >> number of > >> > >> >>> cpu cores. > >> > >> >>> > > I see that the current VM > has 2 > >> cores. So, > >> > I > >> > >> started > >> > >> >>> with > >> > >> >>> > setting the > >> > >> >>> > > num > >> > >> >>> > > executors on the current > agent to 2. > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > This should improve things > quite a > >> bit. If > >> > this > >> > >> doesn't > >> > >> >>> work, I > >> > >> >>> > will > >> > >> >>> > > create a new VM and make > it the > >> slave agent > >> > of the > >> > >> >>> current > >> > >> >>> > Jenkins > >> > >> >>> > > master. > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > > Om > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at > 11:31 PM > >> Alex Harui > >> > >> >>> > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > >> > >> >>> > > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > > On your VM or mine? I > don't think > >> mine > >> > can > >> > >> handle > >> > >> >>> it. I used > >> > >> >>> > to > >> > >> >>> > > run jobs > >> > >> >>> > > > of master and agent and > we got > >> lots of > >> > failures > >> > >> and > >> > >> >>> jobs took > >> > >> >>> > > forever. If > >> > >> >>> > > > two jobs are trying to > run tests > >> with the > >> > >> shared Flash > >> > >> >>> Player > >> > >> >>> > > Debugger, for > >> > >> >>> > > > example, you won't get > consistent > >> results. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > -Alex > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > On 4/17/20, 11:23 PM, > "OmPrakash > >> > Muppirala" < > >> > >> >>> > bigosma...@gmail.com<mailto: > >> bigosma...@gmail.com>> > >> > >> >>> > > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > I just realized that > we have > >> only one > >> > Agent > >> > >> (node) > >> > >> >>> listed > >> > >> >>> > under > >> > >> >>> > > > Jenkins. I > >> > >> >>> > > > am going to add at > least one > >> more > >> > node to > >> > >> start > >> > >> >>> with. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > > > Om > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 > at 9:58 > >> AM Alex > >> > Harui > >> > >> >>> > > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> > >> > >> >>> > > > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > I think I followed > the > >> instructions > >> > and > >> > >> enabled > >> > >> >>> SSH. > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > On 4/16/20, 9:37 > AM, "Yishay > >> Weiss" > >> > < > >> > >> >>> > yishayj...@hotmail.com<mailto: > >> yishayj...@hotmail.com > >> > >> > >> > >> >>> > > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > I haven’t > gotten it to > >> work. > >> > Could be > >> > >> ssh > >> > >> >>> needs to be > >> > >> >>> > > enabled on > >> > >> >>> > > > the > >> > >> >>> > > > > VM [1]. This is > nice to have > >> but not > >> > >> essential. > >> > >> >>> So Alex, > >> > >> >>> > let > >> > >> >>> > > me know > >> > >> >>> > > > if you > >> > >> >>> > > > > want to try that, > otherwise > >> I’ll > >> > suspend > >> > >> my > >> > >> >>> efforts on > >> > >> >>> > this. > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > [1] > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2Ftechinpieces%2Fpractical-azure-how-to-enable-ssh-on-azure-vm-84d8fba8103e&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126981256&sdata=jSJ2d3k5CINKvWLZBZtymV641%2Fx%2BXnMnvLnThs74%2F%2Bo%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> >>> > < > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedium.com%2Ftechinpieces%2Fpractical-azure-how-to-enable-ssh-on-azure-vm-84d8fba8103e&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126981256&sdata=jSJ2d3k5CINKvWLZBZtymV641%2Fx%2BXnMnvLnThs74%2F%2Bo%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > From: Yishay > >> Weiss<mailto: > >> > >> >>> yishayj...@hotmail.com > >> > >> >>> > <mailto:yishayj...@hotmail.com>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > Sent: > Wednesday, April > >> 15, 2020 > >> > 5:09 > >> > >> PM > >> > >> >>> > > > > To: > >> dev@royale.apache.org > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > dev@royale.apache.org><mailto: > >> dev@royale.apache.org > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > dev@royale.apache.org>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > Subject: RE: > Prioritize > >> Release > >> > Jobs > >> > >> on CI > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > I’d like to > try and > >> install an > >> > ssh > >> > >> server. > >> > >> >>> Can anyone > >> > >> >>> > > think of a > >> > >> >>> > > > > reason not to do > that? I’m > >> asking in > >> > >> terms of > >> > >> >>> security, > >> > >> >>> > and if > >> > >> >>> > > there > >> > >> >>> > > > might > >> > >> >>> > > > > be a problem > because it’s a > >> VM. > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > Thanks. > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > From: Yishay > >> Weiss<mailto: > >> > >> >>> yishayj...@hotmail.com > >> > >> >>> > <mailto:yishayj...@hotmail.com>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > Sent: Monday, > April 13, > >> 2020 > >> > 10:02 AM > >> > >> >>> > > > > To: > >> dev@royale.apache.org > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > dev@royale.apache.org><mailto: > >> dev@royale.apache.org > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > dev@royale.apache.org>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > Subject: RE: > Prioritize > >> Release > >> > Jobs > >> > >> on CI > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > Related, as > most (all?) > >> of the > >> > >> instructions > >> > >> >>> don’t > >> > >> >>> > require > >> > >> >>> > > > anything but > >> > >> >>> > > > > a shell wouldn’t > it be > >> easier and > >> > faster > >> > >> to > >> > >> >>> access the > >> > >> >>> > machine > >> > >> >>> > > with > >> > >> >>> > > > ssh > >> > >> >>> > > > > [1], rather than > using remote > >> > desktop? > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > [1] > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fwindows-server%2Fadministration%2Fopenssh%2Fopenssh_install_firstuse&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126981256&sdata=q31IZr4su8m1osIy5KdPVmA8ZZ88UWmfJ0qNl%2B%2B%2F63o%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> >>> > < > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fwindows-server%2Fadministration%2Fopenssh%2Fopenssh_install_firstuse&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126991254&sdata=Pwl5XmRxqfdJi%2F5elh6A2hgNZTX2JFnandVf7TVtMzc%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > From: Yishay > >> Weiss<mailto: > >> > >> >>> yishayj...@hotmail.com > >> > >> >>> > <mailto:yishayj...@hotmail.com>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > Sent: Monday, > April 13, > >> 2020 > >> > 9:55 AM > >> > >> >>> > > > > To: > >> dev@royale.apache.org > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > dev@royale.apache.org><mailto: > >> dev@royale.apache.org > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > dev@royale.apache.org>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > Subject: RE: > Prioritize > >> Release > >> > Jobs > >> > >> on CI > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > Can’t you do > that with > >> remote > >> > desktop? > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> >>> > > > > From: OmPrakash > >> Muppirala < > >> > >> >>> bigosma...@gmail.com > >> > >> >>> > <mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > Sent: Monday, > April 13, > >> 2020 > >> > 9:51:25 > >> > >> AM > >> > >> >>> > > > > To: Apache > Royale > >> Development < > >> > >> >>> dev@royale.apache.org > >> > >> >>> > <mailto:dev@royale.apache.org>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > Subject: Re: > Prioritize > >> Release > >> > Jobs > >> > >> on CI > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > Alex, > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > I believe this > is your > >> personal > >> > Azure > >> > >> >>> subscription > >> > >> >>> > right? > >> > >> >>> > > Any > >> > >> >>> > > > chance > >> > >> >>> > > > > I can > >> > >> >>> > > > > get access to > it so I > >> can try > >> > to copy > >> > >> the > >> > >> >>> image out > >> > >> >>> > the > >> > >> >>> > > machine > >> > >> >>> > > > and > >> > >> >>> > > > > redeploy it > somewhere > >> else? > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > > > > Om > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > On Sun, Apr > 12, 2020 at > >> 6:18 PM > >> > >> OmPrakash > >> > >> >>> Muppirala < > >> > >> >>> > > > > > bigosma...@gmail.com<mailto: > >> > >> bigosma...@gmail.com > >> > >> >>> >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > > I can help > set this up > >> on > >> > Azure. > >> > >> Give me > >> > >> >>> some > >> > >> >>> > time to > >> > >> >>> > > work > >> > >> >>> > > > out the > >> > >> >>> > > > > > details? > >> > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > > > > > Om > >> > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > > On Sun, Apr > 12, 2020, > >> 11:49 AM > >> > >> Harbs < > >> > >> >>> > > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto: > >> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>> > >> > >> >>> > > > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> OK. Good to > know. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > On Apr > 12, 2020, at > >> 9:45 > >> > PM, > >> > >> Alex Harui > >> > >> >>> > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID > >> > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > FWIW, I > just looked > >> and the > >> > >> longest job > >> > >> >>> in the > >> > >> >>> > release > >> > >> >>> > > > steps so > >> > >> >>> > > > > far is > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> 8 minutes. > Most are > >> under 2 > >> > >> minutes. > >> > >> >>> There > >> > >> >>> > might be > >> > >> >>> > > jobs > >> > >> >>> > > > later > >> > >> >>> > > > > that take > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> longer that > we > >> haven't run > >> > yet. > >> > >> IMO, the > >> > >> >>> issue > >> > >> >>> > isn't > >> > >> >>> > > speed > >> > >> >>> > > > of the > >> > >> >>> > > > > machine, > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> it is just > that we are > >> > sharing the > >> > >> >>> machine with > >> > >> >>> > longer > >> > >> >>> > > jobs > >> > >> >>> > > > (1 hour > >> > >> >>> > > > > for > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> TourDeFlexMigration). And > >> > again, > >> > >> the > >> > >> >>> machine > >> > >> >>> > will be > >> > >> >>> > > idle for > >> > >> >>> > > > > stretches of > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> time while > the RM > >> verifies > >> > >> artifacts > >> > >> >>> after each > >> > >> >>> > step. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > -Alex > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > On > 4/12/20, 11:32 > >> AM, > >> > "Harbs" < > >> > >> >>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto: > >> harbs.li...@gmail.com> > >> > >> >>> > > > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > harbs.li...@gmail.com > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > Fair > enough. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > I > expect builds > >> to be > >> > >> somewhere > >> > >> >>> between 10 > >> > >> >>> > and 20 > >> > >> >>> > > times > >> > >> >>> > > > faster > >> > >> >>> > > > > on a > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> powerful > machine. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > Yeah. > It’s > >> probably > >> > going to > >> > >> be a > >> > >> >>> bit of work > >> > >> >>> > > changing > >> > >> >>> > > > the > >> > >> >>> > > > > server, > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> but > probably worth it > >> in the > >> > long > >> > >> run. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > I > think I’ll try > >> this > >> > when I > >> > >> do the > >> > >> >>> next > >> > >> >>> > release > >> > >> >>> > > unless > >> > >> >>> > > > Yishay > >> > >> >>> > > > > wants > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> to work > with me on > >> this for > >> > this > >> > >> release > >> > >> >>> — but > >> > >> >>> > I’m not > >> > >> >>> > > going > >> > >> >>> > > > to be > >> > >> >>> > > > > able to > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> help until > after > >> Passover > >> > (i.e. > >> > >> next > >> > >> >>> week). > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > Thanks, > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > Harbs > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> On Apr > 12, 2020, > >> at 9:22 > >> > PM, > >> > >> Alex Harui > >> > >> >>> > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID > >> > >> >>> > > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> The > Azure portal > >> says: > >> > Standard > >> > >> F2s_v2 > >> > >> >>> (2 > >> > >> >>> > vcpus, 4 > >> > >> >>> > > GiB > >> > >> >>> > > > memory) > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> I think > I am > >> reading > >> > changes to > >> > >> the > >> > >> >>> build > >> > >> >>> > process in > >> > >> >>> > > your > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > suggestions. I do not > >> > really want > >> > >> to > >> > >> >>> spend more > >> > >> >>> > of my > >> > >> >>> > > time > >> > >> >>> > > > on this > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> process. > But if you > >> want to > >> > do > >> > >> the work, > >> > >> >>> that's > >> > >> >>> > fine > >> > >> >>> > > with me. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> -Alex > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> On > 4/12/20, 10:57 > >> AM, > >> > "Harbs" < > >> > >> >>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto: > >> harbs.li...@gmail.com> > >> > >> >>> > > > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > harbs.li...@gmail.com > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>> <mailto: > >> harbs.li...@gmail.com > >> > >> <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com> > >> > >> >>> > > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > harbs.li...@gmail.com > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>>>> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> What > kind of > >> horsepower > >> > is > >> > >> included > >> > >> >>> in the > >> > >> >>> > free > >> > >> >>> > > Azure > >> > >> >>> > > > account? > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> The > server I > >> mentioned > >> > builds > >> > >> >>> (considerably) > >> > >> >>> > > faster than > >> > >> >>> > > > my own > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> local > machine. The ci > >> server > >> > seems > >> > >> to > >> > >> >>> build many > >> > >> >>> > times > >> > >> >>> > > slower. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> One > thing we can > >> do to > >> > >> minimize > >> > >> >>> running > >> > >> >>> > server time > >> > >> >>> > > > would be to > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> transfer the > >> artifacts to > >> > storage > >> > >> instead > >> > >> >>> of > >> > >> >>> > keeping > >> > >> >>> > > them on > >> > >> >>> > > > the > >> > >> >>> > > > > server. On > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> AWS, I’d > probably use > >> S3. > >> > Not sure > >> > >> what > >> > >> >>> the > >> > >> >>> > similar > >> > >> >>> > > service on > >> > >> >>> > > > > Azure is > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> called. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> On Apr > 12, 2020, > >> at 8:26 > >> > PM, > >> > >> Alex > >> > >> >>> Harui > >> > >> >>> > > > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> <mailto: > >> > aha...@adobe.com.INVALID > >> > >> <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>>> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> OK, > that's pretty > >> much > >> > how I > >> > >> >>> understand Azure > >> > >> >>> > as > >> > >> >>> > > well. > >> > >> >>> > > > The key > >> > >> >>> > > > > thing > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> is that > "running" > >> includes > >> > time > >> > >> where the > >> > >> >>> CI > >> > >> >>> > server is > >> > >> >>> > > not > >> > >> >>> > > > running > >> > >> >>> > > > > any > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> Jenkins > jobs. The CI > >> Server > >> > steps > >> > >> might > >> > >> >>> take > >> > >> >>> > only a few > >> > >> >>> > > > hours of > >> > >> >>> > > > > actual > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> server > time, but > >> there is > >> > time > >> > >> where the > >> > >> >>> RM is > >> > >> >>> > verifying > >> > >> >>> > > > artifacts > >> > >> >>> > > > > locally > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> so you'd be > paying > >> for that > >> > or the > >> > >> RM > >> > >> >>> would have > >> > >> >>> > to keep > >> > >> >>> > > > shutting > >> > >> >>> > > > > down and > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> restarting. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> Seems > like it > >> would be > >> > >> >>> cheaper/simpler to get > >> > >> >>> > the > >> > >> >>> > > free > >> > >> >>> > > > MSDN > >> > >> >>> > > > > account > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> and leave > it running. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> -Alex > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> On > 4/12/20, 10:15 > >> AM, > >> > "Harbs" < > >> > >> >>> > > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto: > >> > harbs.li...@gmail.com> > >> > >> >>> > > > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > harbs.li...@gmail.com > >> > <mailto: > >> > >> >>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>>> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> My > experience is > >> with > >> > AWS. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> I > assume > >> Microsoft has > >> > similar > >> > >> >>> offerings, > >> > >> >>> > but I > >> > >> >>> > > don’t > >> > >> >>> > > > have > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> experience > with Azure. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> AWS has > >> on-demand EC2 > >> > >> instances > >> > >> >>> which you > >> > >> >>> > pay for > >> > >> >>> > > only > >> > >> >>> > > > the > >> > >> >>> > > > > actual > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> time that > they are > >> > running.[1] > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > Instances can be > >> > started and > >> > >> stopped > >> > >> >>> via > >> > >> >>> > command > >> > >> >>> > > line > >> > >> >>> > > > (or via > >> > >> >>> > > > > the > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> web > interface) as > >> long as > >> > you have > >> > >> valid > >> > >> >>> > credentials to > >> > >> >>> > > do so. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> For > example: an > >> > m5.4xlarge > >> > >> instance > >> > >> >>> has 16 > >> > >> >>> > cores > >> > >> >>> > > and > >> > >> >>> > > > costs > >> > >> >>> > > > > about > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> $1.5 per > hour. On a > >> machine > >> > like > >> > >> that, a > >> > >> >>> full > >> > >> >>> > build > >> > >> >>> > > would > >> > >> >>> > > > probably > >> > >> >>> > > > > take > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> less than > 10 minutes. > >> It’s > >> > probably > >> > >> >>> possible to > >> > >> >>> > do a > >> > >> >>> > > full > >> > >> >>> > > > release > >> > >> >>> > > > > with only > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> a few hours > of server > >> time. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > Leaving a server > >> like > >> > that > >> > >> running > >> > >> >>> all the > >> > >> >>> > time > >> > >> >>> > > would get > >> > >> >>> > > > > expensive, > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> but if it’s > just spun > >> up for > >> > >> releases, > >> > >> >>> you’d get > >> > >> >>> > very > >> > >> >>> > > fast > >> > >> >>> > > > builds > >> > >> >>> > > > > at a > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> reasonable > price. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> I’d be > happy to > >> pay > >> > $10-$50 > >> > >> (and > >> > >> >>> possibly > >> > >> >>> > more) per > >> > >> >>> > > > release to > >> > >> >>> > > > > make > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> the release > process > >> painless > >> > for > >> > >> the RM. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> [1] > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faws.amazon.com%2Fec2%2Fpricing%2Fon-demand%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453126991254&sdata=I6nnsWWwkkVZqrXV0Lpgz3civxZk8GfKFr%2BIlBYQ7AE%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> >>> > < > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > 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https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faws.amazon.com%2Fec2%2Fpricing%2Fon-demand%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7Ca60134b4e7dc40ba25bb08d7e5b88d70%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637230453127001247&sdata=yxGhuT%2F%2BFMzF%2FMWf6g3chkVMaRKaWLZtcOXfUKXJxNo%3D&reserved=0 > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> On Apr > 12, 2020, > >> at > >> > 7:45 PM, > >> > >> Alex > >> > >> >>> Harui > >> > >> >>> > > > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> I'm > not very > >> > experienced with > >> > >> >>> spinning up > >> > >> >>> > > servers. The > >> > >> >>> > > > CI > >> > >> >>> > > > > server we > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> are using is > >> effectively > >> > free, > >> > >> based on a > >> > >> >>> generous > >> > >> >>> > > donation > >> > >> >>> > > > from > >> > >> >>> > > > > Microsoft > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> of MSDN > accounts to > >> ASF > >> > >> committers. So I > >> > >> >>> leave > >> > >> >>> > it up > >> > >> >>> > > 24/7, > >> > >> >>> > > > and > >> > >> >>> > > > > share the > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> RDP access > on private@. > >> I > >> > think > >> > >> any > >> > >> >>> other ASF > >> > >> >>> > > committer > >> > >> >>> > > > could do > >> > >> >>> > > > > the > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> same. > IIRC, if that > >> server > >> > >> actually is > >> > >> >>> stopped, > >> > >> >>> > I have > >> > >> >>> > > to > >> > >> >>> > > > use my > >> > >> >>> > > > > personal > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> (unshared) > MSDN > >> credentials > >> > to > >> > >> start it > >> > >> >>> again. > >> > >> >>> > AIUI, > >> > >> >>> > > if I > >> > >> >>> > > > > actually paid > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> for the > server, it > >> would > >> > cost me > >> > >> to leave > >> > >> >>> it > >> > >> >>> > running > >> > >> >>> > > even if > >> > >> >>> > > > it > >> > >> >>> > > > > didn't run > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> jobs > between releases. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> Is > that what you > >> are > >> > basically > >> > >> >>> saying? I > >> > >> >>> > think it > >> > >> >>> > > might > >> > >> >>> > > > be > >> > >> >>> > > > > best if > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> another > committer got > >> a CI > >> > server > >> > >> going > >> > >> >>> via the MS > >> > >> >>> > > donation > >> > >> >>> > > > and > >> > >> >>> > > > > could leave > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> it up 24/7. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> -Alex > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> On > 4/12/20, 9:28 > >> AM, > >> > "Harbs" < > >> > >> >>> > > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto: > >> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>> > >> > >> >>> > > > wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> I’m > willing to > >> do this. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > Considering that > >> the > >> > release > >> > >> will be > >> > >> >>> run > >> > >> >>> > > infrequently, it > >> > >> >>> > > > > should be > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> doable to > have a > >> relatively > >> > >> powerful > >> > >> >>> server that > >> > >> >>> > could > >> > >> >>> > > be > >> > >> >>> > > > spun up on > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> demand. > This is > >> something I > >> > have > >> > >> setup > >> > >> >>> for my own > >> > >> >>> > > releases. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> The > only > >> complication > >> > would > >> > >> be that > >> > >> >>> each RM > >> > >> >>> > would > >> > >> >>> > > need > >> > >> >>> > > > valid > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> credentials > to spin > >> up the > >> > server. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> Harbs > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>>> On > Apr 12, > >> 2020, at > >> > 7:10 PM, > >> > >> Alex > >> > >> >>> Harui > >> > >> >>> > > > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>>> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>>> A > better > >> solution, > >> > IMO, is > >> > >> for > >> > >> >>> someone else > >> > >> >>> > to > >> > >> >>> > > offer up > >> > >> >>> > > > a CI > >> > >> >>> > > > > server > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> only for > release jobs. > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > >
