Email has 2 Factor authentication on, so I cannot login to it unless
someone with added number allows me ;)

czw., 23 kwi 2020 o 07:13 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> napisał(a):

> I hope I posted the Gmail credentials on private@, so you can login and
> look there.  But also, the email won't make it to the list.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 4/22/20, 9:19 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     If I redirect emails to commits etc. How would I know that Jenkins got
>     rejection? Do I get this info in Jenkins web console interface somehow?
>
>     On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 6:37 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>     > Pretty sure I tried allowing CI Server and Infra would have
> suggested that
>     > as well.  You are welcome to try it maybe on Royale-asjs since it is
>     > failing a lot right now.
>     >
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     > On 4/21/20, 12:01 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Alex,
>     >
>     >     Yes problem is solvable - redirect email not to dev but to
> commits or
>     > other
>     >     email which we have available - This is the solution.
>     >
>     >     If I'm new to the list and subscribing here - seeing tons of
> weird
>     > emails
>     >     instead of emails about concrete subject - I would unsubscribe in
>     > about 1
>     >     day max. - I wouldn't care that I can make a filter on my inbox,
> cause
>     > I
>     >     have for example 100 filters already. If I look into the archive
> I
>     > really
>     >     cannot read it, cause mailing list is obfuscated by stuff which
> uses
>     > by PMC
>     >     and committers - If you are PMC or committer and care about
> stuff you
>     > will
>     >     subscribe for another list.
>     >
>     >     Thanks,
>     >     Piotr
>     >
>     >     wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 08:44 Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>     > napisał(a):
>     >
>     >     > I have a few minutes waiting for step 11 to finish so have
> some time
>     > to
>     >     > think about this more.
>     >     >
>     >     > My understanding is that we would need to send from an a.o
> email
>     > address
>     >     > to have it end up on commits@.  I don't know how to do that
> on a
>     > shared
>     >     > machine.
>     >     >
>     >     > Maybe we should agree on what the problem is before looking for
>     >     > solutions.  To me, the problem seems mostly unsolvable.  As a
> PMC
>     > member
>     >     > you are supposed to be watching the commits, and as a
> committer, you
>     > need
>     >     > to know if you broke the build, and as a community member, you
>     > should help
>     >     > fix the build even if you didn't break it.  Moving CI emails
> out of
>     > your
>     >     > inbox via another list or a filter certainly will save you
> time, but
>     >     > doesn't seem fair to others.  Because if you aren't doing your
> share
>     > of
>     >     > commit reviews, or if you don't see right away that you might
> have
>     > broken
>     >     > the build then others have more work to do or can't get their
> work
>     > done.
>     >     >
>     >     > And  if we were a busier project, we might have rules on
> whether you
>     > can
>     >     > commit while the build is broken or not so as not to make it
> harder
>     > for the
>     >     > person trying to fix the build to fix it.
>     >     >
>     >     > But meanwhile, there are a lot of emails that you don't really
> need
>     > to
>     >     > read.  How can anyone know which ones to read and which ones
> can be
>     >     > skipped?  And what tools can be used to make that happen?  Are
> there
>     > email
>     >     > tools that can tell if someone is working on a broken build?
> Can
>     > Jenkins
>     >     > tell us more in each failure message so you can filter out a
> series
>     > of
>     >     > broken build emails?  Maybe that's what we should be figuring
> out.
>     >     >
>     >     > My 2 cents,
>     >     > -Alex
>     >     >
>     >     > On 4/20/20, 11:21 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     It's end up with using Dev, so I would like to get back to
> idea
>     > of
>     >     > having
>     >     >     either separate mailing list or sending that to
>     > commits@royale.a.o -
>     >     > Your
>     >     >     last comments indicates that email was still rejected - Is
> it
>     > still the
>     >     >     case ?
>     >     >
>     >     >     wt., 21 kwi 2020 o 00:43 Alex Harui
> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>     >     > napisał(a):
>     >     >
>     >     >     > I already asked.  See: INFRA-15722
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 2:45 PM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>     > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     To me argument of having info that server failed vs
> have
>     > cleaned
>     >     > inbox
>     >     >     >     finally - I'm choosing to have inbox cleaned.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     If Apache rejected email from Jenkins on commits@ I
> can
>     > ask
>     >     > infra
>     >     >     > what can
>     >     >     >     be done.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:43 PM Alex Harui
>     >     > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > I've been unable to get the CI server to send to
> commits@
>     > .
>     >     > Apache
>     >     >     > blocks
>     >     >     >     > it.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > Maybe issues@, but these aren't about issues.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > IMO, the point of these Jenkins emails is so that
> all
>     >     > committers
>     >     >     > know the
>     >     >     >     > current state of the builds and help fix issues
> when
>     >     > possible.  My
>     >     >     > concern
>     >     >     >     > is that when committers start filtering CI emails
> they
>     > will
>     >     > miss
>     >     >     > when one
>     >     >     >     > of their commits breaks the build.  So, the only
> reason
>     > to
>     >     > split CI
>     >     >     > emails
>     >     >     >     > off this list is to reduce traffic to the
> non-committers.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>     >     >     >     > -Alex
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 1:17 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
>     >     > bigosma...@gmail.com>
>     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     We already have issues@ and commits@.  Can we
>     > redirect the
>     >     >     > emails to
>     >     >     >     > one of
>     >     >     >     >     the lists?
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:54 AM Alex Harui
>     >     >     > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>     >     >     >     >     wrote:
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     > IMO, if we do create a new list, all
> committers
>     > must be
>     >     >     > subscribed.
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     > My 2 cents,
>     >     >     >     >     > -Alex
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     > On 4/20/20, 1:53 AM, "Piotr Zarzycki" <
>     >     >     > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>     >     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     Hi Guys,
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     In the last year or so all notifications
> from
>     > Jenkins
>     >     >     > build are
>     >     >     >     > going
>     >     >     >     >     > to
>     >     >     >     >     >     development mailing list. It becomes very
>     > messy I see
>     >     >     > every day
>     >     >     >     > 40-50
>     >     >     >     >     >     emails where 80% of that is notification
> from
>     >     > Jenkins.
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     I would like to propose create separate
>     > mailing list
>     >     > to
>     >     >     > have such
>     >     >     >     >     >     notifications there.
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     Is it possible?
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     Please share your thoughts on that
> subject.
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     Thanks,
>     >     >     >     >     >     --
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >     Piotr Zarzycki
>     >     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >     >
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>     >     >     >     >
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>     >     >     >
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