We didn't have any vote if someone wanted to be added. I think our project
is bad example to think in a way of voting. It would be very individual. We
knew all people who wanted to be on that page, we didn't expect that there
will be someone from totally outside specialized in migration to Royale,
someone who is silent on that list.

Just look into your project and find the answer there - do you think you
will have request to adding to your page from someone who you do not know
from the list ? - If the answer is NO - you probably don't need vote.

What's more in my opinion I would be against vote anyway whoever would like
to be on such page in case of Royale.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 8:59 AM Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
wrote:

> Hi Piotr,
>
> I was more asking if there is any vote on this ... or is anyone added
> without checks or discussion?
> I'm not asking cause I want to be added ... I'm asking cause I would be
> interested on how you folks decided to do this.
> As I mentioned, we want to implement something similar for PLC4X.
>
> And I would be interested in hearing what you're experience with this is
> in general.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Am 04.06.20, 08:39 schrieb "Piotr Zarzycki" <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>:
>
>     Hi Chris,
>
>     I'm not entirely sure what do you ask. However in case of adding
> entries
>     you need to take on the list as I asked for a change. Our website is
>     unfortunately based on WordPress so someone has to add that. Carlos is
>     pretty quick with that, so I asked him.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Piotr
>
>     On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 8:18 AM Christofer Dutz <
> christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
>     wrote:
>
>     > Sending this again as my last one didn't seem to make it through ...
>     >
>     >
>     > Hi folks,
>     >
>     > glad you brought this up .. I didn't know there was this page (Found
> it
>     > quite hard to reach)
>     > We were discussing doing something similar in PLC4X.
>     >
>     > We currently decided to add an "adopters" page ... perhaps it would
> be a
>     > good idea to add a royale logo above the table as you're having the
> same
>     > "problem" we're currently having with our list ... if someone posts
> a link
>     > to that page, most chat tools expand this to the first logo, which
> is the
>     > "Bowler Hat" logo ...
>     >
>     > How is the experience with this? Are there many requests coming in?
> We
>     > were a little hesitant in PLC4X.
>     > What's the process on adding entries? Do I just send an email and
> that's
>     > added or is there any PMC voting going on?
>     > Just asking cause we're interested in doing something similar.
>     >
>     > Chris
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Am 03.06.20, 19:23 schrieb "Piotr Zarzycki" <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>:
>     >
>     >     Hi Carlos,
>     >
>     >     Would you be able to change commercial support page in following
> way.
>     >
>     >     1) In section "Name" add under Prominic.NET in the second line
>     > Moonshine
>     >     IDE link https://moonshine-ide.com/
>     >     2) In section "Contact Email" change to sa...@moonshine-ide.com
>     >     3) Short Description: Could you make as a link following sentence
>     > "porting
>     >     Apache Flex applications to Apache Royale" ->
>     >     https://moonshine-ide.com/flex-migration/
>     >
>     >     Would it be possible to make all of those changes ?
>     >
>     >     Thanks,
>     >     Piotr
>     >
>     >     czw., 8 sie 2019 o 10:48 Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     > napisał(a):
>     >
>     >     > Hi,
>     >     >
>     >     > BowlerHat / Josh Tynjala entry was added to the list too :)
>     >     >
>     >     > Best
>     >     >
>     >     > Carlos
>     >     >
>     >     > El mié., 7 ago. 2019 a las 21:43, Andrew Wetmore (<
>     > cottag...@gmail.com>)
>     >     > escribió:
>     >     >
>     >     > > That looks very good, with the list of providers above the
>     > qualifications
>     >     > > for getting added to the list.
>     >     > >
>     >     > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 2:18 PM Yishay Weiss <
>     > yishayj...@hotmail.com>
>     >     > > wrote:
>     >     > >
>     >     > > > Good to hear Carlos, thanks.
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > > ________________________________
>     >     > > > From: Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 7:57:58 PM
>     >     > > > To: dev@royale.apache.org <dev@royale.apache.org>
>     >     > > > Subject: Re: Royale Commercial Support Page (was: Fwd: AIR
> and
>     > Royale)
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > > Hi Piotr, Yshay,
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > > entry is now added and published :)
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > > https://royale.apache.org/royale-commercial-support/
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > > El mié., 7 ago. 2019 a las 8:07, Piotr Zarzycki (<
>     >     > > > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>)
>     >     > > > escribió:
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > > > Hi Carlos,
>     >     > > > >
>     >     > > > > Yishay send you logo off the list. Is it ok ?
>     >     > > > >
>     >     > > > > Thanks,
>     >     > > > > Piotr
>     >     > > > >
>     >     > > > > pon., 5 sie 2019 o 11:32 Piotr Zarzycki <
>     > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>     >     > > > > napisał(a):
>     >     > > > >
>     >     > > > > > Yes! I'm ok!
>     >     > > > > >
>     >     > > > > > Thanks for asking.
>     >     > > > > >
>     >     > > > > > pon., 5 sie 2019 o 11:13 Yishay Weiss <
>     > yishayj...@hotmail.com>
>     >     > > > > napisał(a):
>     >     > > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> Actually, please add a + before the phone number so it
>     > links to
>     >     > > Skype.
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> Piotr, are u ok with being added?
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> ________________________________
>     >     > > > > >> From: Yishay Weiss <yishayj...@hotmail.com>
>     >     > > > > >> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 12:09:40 PM
>     >     > > > > >> To: dev@royale.apache.org <dev@royale.apache.org>
>     >     > > > > >> Subject: RE: Royale Commercial Support Page (was:
> Fwd: AIR
>     > and
>     >     > > Royale)
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> Looks good to me. Thanks.
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> ________________________________
>     >     > > > > >> From: Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     > > > > >> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 12:00:08 PM
>     >     > > > > >> To: dev@royale.apache.org <dev@royale.apache.org>
>     >     > > > > >> Subject: Re: Royale Commercial Support Page (was:
> Fwd: AIR
>     > and
>     >     > > Royale)
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> Yeah! sorry :)
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >>
> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/royale-commercial-support/
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> El lun., 5 ago. 2019 a las 10:49, Yishay Weiss (<
>     >     > > > yishayj...@hotmail.com
>     >     > > > > >)
>     >     > > > > >> escribió:
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> > >ok, you can check here the addition before publish.
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> > Was there supposed to be a link?
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> > El lun., 5 ago. 2019 a las 10:10, Yishay Weiss (<
>     >     > > > > yishayj...@hotmail.com
>     >     > > > > >> >)
>     >     > > > > >> > escribió:
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > I’ll try to find one. Thanks!
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > ________________________________
>     >     > > > > >> > > From: Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     > > > > >> > > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 10:59:51 AM
>     >     > > > > >> > > To: dev@royale.apache.org <dev@royale.apache.org>
>     >     > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: Royale Commercial Support Page (was:
> Fwd:
>     > AIR and
>     >     > > > > Royale)
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > Hi Yishay,
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > I'm adding it. Could you provide a better logo?
>     >     > > > > >> > > (LOGO (if applies) (PNG, background transparent,
> good
>     >     > resolution
>     >     > > > (at
>     >     > > > > >> > least
>     >     > > > > >> > > above 800px))
>     >     > > > > >> > > thanks
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > El lun., 5 ago. 2019 a las 9:23, Yishay Weiss (<
>     >     > > > > >> yishayj...@hotmail.com>)
>     >     > > > > >> > > escribió:
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Apache Royale contributor(s): Piotr Zarzycki
>     > (committer and
>     >     > > PMC
>     >     > > > > >> > member),
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Yishay Weiss (committer and PMC member).
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > ________________________________
>     >     > > > > >> > > > From: Yishay Weiss
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 10:17:52 AM
>     >     > > > > >> > > > To: dev@royale.apache.org <
> dev@royale.apache.org>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Subject: RE: Royale Commercial Support Page
> (was:
>     > Fwd: AIR
>     >     > and
>     >     > > > > >> Royale)
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Carlos, please add Prominic as well. Thanks.
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Name: Prominic.NET
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Short Description: Prominic.NET is a home-grown,
>     > US-based
>     >     > > > hosting
>     >     > > > > >> > > services
>     >     > > > > >> > > > provider, providing services and support to
>     > businesses all
>     >     > > over
>     >     > > > > the
>     >     > > > > >> > > world.
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Among its products is the Moonshine IDE which is
>     > targeted
>     >     > > > > >> specifically
>     >     > > > > >> > at
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Apache Flex and Apache Royale. Our team includes
>     > Royale
>     >     > > > > specialists
>     >     > > > > >> > with
>     >     > > > > >> > > > experience in porting Apache Flex applications
> to
>     > Apache
>     >     > > Royale.
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Logo:
>     > https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgH-0pVQ5zPPxAevfQfnGMANlj0b
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Website URL: https://prominic.net/
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Contact Person: Yishay Weiss
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Contact Email: yishayj...@hotmail.com<mailto:
>     >     > > > > yishayj...@hotmail.com
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Contact Phone: 972524512113
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > ________________________________
>     >     > > > > >> > > > From: Andrew Wetmore <cottag...@gmail.com>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 3:35:40 PM
>     >     > > > > >> > > > To: Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Cc: dev@royale.apache.org <
> dev@royale.apache.org>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Subject: Re: Royale Commercial Support Page
> (was:
>     > Fwd: AIR
>     >     > and
>     >     > > > > >> Royale)
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > I have made a bunch of small text changes. This
> is a
>     > useful
>     >     > > > > >> tutorial!
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 9:59 PM Andrew Wetmore <
>     >     > > > > cottag...@gmail.com
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > wrote:
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > > I will do a text review early tomorrow.
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 7:54 PM Carlos Rovira
> <
>     >     > > > > >> > carlosrov...@apache.org
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > > wrote:
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> Hi!
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> New commercial support page is ready and
> published.
>     >     > > Andrew, I
>     >     > > > > get
>     >     > > > > >> > some
>     >     > > > > >> > > > of
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> the texts from other apache webs, but anyway
> some
>     > review
>     >     > > for
>     >     > > > > your
>     >     > > > > >> > part
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> would be great! :)
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     > https://royale.apache.org/royale-commercial-support/
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> Anyone that wants to be listed, please follow
>     >     > > instructions!!
>     >     > > > :)
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> El vie., 7 jun. 2019 a las 15:51, Andrew
> Wetmore (<
>     >     > > > > >> > > cottag...@gmail.com
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >)
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> escribió:
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> This is s great idea
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 6:24 AM Carlos Rovira,
> <
>     >     > > > > >> > carlosrov...@apache.org
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> wrote:
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > Hi,
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > I'll be creating a page on the website in
> the
>     >     > following
>     >     > > > days
>     >     > > > > >> > with a
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> list of
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > third party providers that offers
> commercial
>     > support
>     >     > for
>     >     > > > > >> Apache
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> Royale, in
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > the lines we saw in the links shared by
> Dave
>     > Fisher as
>     >     > > > > >> examples
>     >     > > > > >> > in
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> other
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > Apache products.
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > It could be companies or individuals.
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > Anyone that wants to be listed, please
> share
>     > here the
>     >     > > > > >> following
>     >     > > > > >> > > data:
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > * NAME
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > * SHORT DESCRIPTION (if applies)
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > * LOGO (if applies) (PNG, background
>     > transparent, good
>     >     > > > > >> resolution
>     >     > > > > >> > > (at
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> least
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > above 800px)
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > * WEBSITE URL
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > * CONTACT PERSON (in case of individual
> can be
>     > same as
>     >     > > > NAME)
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > * EMAIL OF CONTACT
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > * PHONE OF CONTACT
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > * APACHE ROYALE CONTRIBUTOR (if the
> company or
>     >     > > individual
>     >     > > > > has
>     >     > > > > >> > > people
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > contributing to this project, or if is an
>     > individual
>     >     > > > > >> contributes
>     >     > > > > >> > to
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> this
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > project)
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > thanks
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > De: Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > If you consider this ok, I can create a
> thread
>     > so
>     >     > > > companies
>     >     > > > > >> that
>     >     > > > > >> > > want
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> to be
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > listed, can express they want to, and I
> can
>     > create a
>     >     > > page
>     >     > > > in
>     >     > > > > >> our
>     >     > > > > >> > > site
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> with
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > the logos and urls and maybe more (contact
>     > person?,
>     >     > ...)
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > thanks
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > --
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > Carlos Rovira
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>> >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> --
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> Carlos Rovira
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > > --
>     >     > > > > >> > > > > Andrew Wetmore
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > --
>     >     > > > > >> > > > Andrew Wetmore
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>     >     > > > > >> > > >
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> > > --
>     >     > > > > >> > > Carlos Rovira
>     >     > > > > >> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>     >     > > > > >> > >
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> > --
>     >     > > > > >> > Carlos Rovira
>     >     > > > > >> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >> >
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >> --
>     >     > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
>     >     > > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>     >     > > > > >>
>     >     > > > > >
>     >     > > > > >
>     >     > > > > > --
>     >     > > > > >
>     >     > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
>     >     > > > > >
>     >     > > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>     >     > > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>     >     > > > > >
>     >     > > > >
>     >     > > > >
>     >     > > > > --
>     >     > > > >
>     >     > > > > Piotr Zarzycki
>     >     > > > >
>     >     > > > > Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
>     >     > > > > <https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki>*
>     >     > > > >
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > >
>     >     > > > --
>     >     > > > Carlos Rovira
>     >     > > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>     >     > > >
>     >     > >
>     >     > >
>     >     > > --
>     >     > > Andrew Wetmore
>     >     > >
>     >     > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>     >     > >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > --
>     >     > Carlos Rovira
>     >     > http://about.me/carlosrovira
>     >     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     --
>     >
>     >     Piotr Zarzycki
>     >
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