My opinion (non-binding) is option-1. Keep it simple and follow HIVE.

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Kalyan Kumar Kalvagadda <
kkal...@cloudera.com> wrote:

> Lina,
>
> I don't have that information. I need to dig deeper into apache hive wiki
> to get some understanding of it.
>
> -Kalyan
>
> -Kalyan
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Na Li <lina...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > What is the timeline of back porting the fix to Hive 2.4? And when do we
> > plan to release sentry 2.0?
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Kalyan Kumar Kalvagadda <
> > kkal...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I would like to share issue that i have discovered while working on
> > > SENTRY-1838 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-1838>(
> Support
> > > Hive 2.1.1 for sentry 2.0)
> > >
> > > With the design changes done in Hive between 2.0.0 through 2.1.1,
> > > HiveOperation
> > > is not passed to HiveSemanticAnalyzerHook which is implemented by
> > > sentry. HiveOperation
> > > is very basic information that sentry needs.
> > >
> > > I have reported this issue to hive community.(HIVE-17048
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-17048>). This issue is
> fixed
> > > in
> > > Hive 3.0.0. I will work Hive community to back-port it to Hive 2.4
> > release.
> > >
> > > With that said, we can not integrate with Hive 2.1.1 because of above
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > We have two options here
> > > 1. Settle down to Hive 2.0.0 for sentry 2.0.0 release
> > > 2. Follow-up with Hive community and get this fix ported to Hive 2.4
> > > release and integrate with hive 2.4.
> > >
> > > I give +1 to option-1 and target support for Hive 2.4 in sentry 2.0.1
> > > release.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Kalyan
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Kalyan Kumar Kalvagadda <
> > > kkal...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lina,
> > > >
> > > > Apache community is currently focused on sentry-ha to be released. It
> > has
> > > > highest priority over others. If you are contributing to that, I
> would
> > > say
> > > > continue doing so.
> > > >
> > > > -Kalyan
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Na Li <lina...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Kalyan,
> > > >>
> > > >> I can work on those items.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can you create seperate Jiras for each one and add more info.
> > > >>
> > > >> In terms of priority, is finishing sentry-HA a higher priority than
> > > these
> > > >> (for C6)?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> Lina
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Kalyan Kumar Kalvagadda <
> > > >> kkal...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hello all,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Either way we need to fix couple of things first.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1. Fix the test failures when hive-authz2 and datanucleus4
> profiles
> > > are
> > > >> > enabled.
> > > >> > 2. Update e2e tests in sentry-tests-hive-v2 package to have same
> > > >> coverage
> > > >> > as tests in sentry-tests-hive package.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Does any one wants to take ownership of any of these tasks?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -Kalyan
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Na Li <lina...@cloudera.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > I agree with Colm too. We can support Hive 2.1.1 only in sentry
> > 2.0
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Lina
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Sergio Pena <
> > > >> sergio.p...@cloudera.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > I agree with Colm too. Hive 1.1 is too old and due to the way
> > how
> > > >> > Sentry
> > > >> > > > works with HMS and notifications, it's not worth the effort to
> > > keep
> > > >> > > > supporting Hive 1.1. Let's drop it.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Colm O hEigeartaigh <
> > > >> > > cohei...@apache.org>
> > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > I think we should drop support for Hive 1.1.0 in sentry
> 2.0.0.
> > > >> Hive
> > > >> > > 1.1.0
> > > >> > > > > users can obtain the plugin from the Sentry 1.8.x series of
> > > >> releases.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Colm.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Kalyan Kumar Kalvagadda <
> > > >> > > > > kkal...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Sentry currently supports Hive1.1.0 and Hive 2.0.0 based
> on
> > > the
> > > >> > > profile
> > > >> > > > > > used. I'm currently working on sentry 2.0.0 release
> upstream
> > > to
> > > >> > > > integrate
> > > >> > > > > > with Hive 2.1.1.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I'm sending this mail seeking inputs on what is the
> support
> > we
> > > >> need
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> > > > > > Sentry 2.0.0 release. Would that be just Hive 2.x or both
> > Hive
> > > >> 2.x
> > > >> > > and
> > > >> > > > > Hive
> > > >> > > > > > 1.1.0?
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > I'm not sure if we should be supporting Hive 1.1.0 in
> sentry
> > > >> 2.0.0.
> > > >> > > As
> > > >> > > > > Hive
> > > >> > > > > > 1.1.0 is pretty old and the notification log
> implementation
> > in
> > > >> this
> > > >> > > > > version
> > > >> > > > > > which Sentry-HA is dependent on has a lot of bugs which
> are
> > > >> fixed
> > > >> > in
> > > >> > > > > later
> > > >> > > > > > releases. Considering this, shouldn't we integrate sentry
> in
> > > >> > release
> > > >> > > > > 2.0.0
> > > >> > > > > >  with Hive 2.1.1 and say that it would no more support
> older
> > > >> > versions
> > > >> > > > of
> > > >> > > > > > Hive?
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Here are some of the approaches that we could take for
> Hive
> > > >> > > integration
> > > >> > > > > for
> > > >> > > > > > sentry 2.0.0 release.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > *Approach-1:* Maintain support for both Hive 1.1.0 and
> Hive
> > > >> 2.1.1
> > > >> > > > > > *Approach-2: *Maintain support for both Hive 1.1.0 and
> Hive
> > > >> 2.1.1
> > > >> > for
> > > >> > > > now
> > > >> > > > > > and remove it by the time sentry 2.0.0 is released.
> > > >> > > > > > *Approach-3:* Remove support for Hive 1.1.0 now.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > *Downside* for Approach 1 and 2 is that we need to put in
> > lot
> > > of
> > > >> > > effort
> > > >> > > > > to
> > > >> > > > > > have them work together as Hive 2.1.1 has a lot of API's
> > > changes
> > > >> > > which
> > > >> > > > > need
> > > >> > > > > > changes to a lot classes in sentry-binding package but
> still
> > > >> > maintain
> > > >> > > > > > backward compatibility.
> > > >> > > > > > If we want to take approach-1 for any reason, it's worth
> > > putting
> > > >> > that
> > > >> > > > > > effort otherwise we could take approach-3.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > My next steps would be based on what I hear form the
> > > community.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > -Kalyan
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > --
> > > >> > > > > Colm O hEigeartaigh
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > Talend Community Coder
> > > >> > > > > http://coders.talend.com
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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Mat Crocker
Engineering Manager, Cloudera Inc.

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