I think it is a good idea to move to a new major version to do all those 
changes. But I would then
deprecate both SMX3 and SMX4 to start something really new. And I wouldn't even 
advertise those old
versions on the new homepage but simply go only for the new one.
Otherwise we will end  up maintaining 3 different versions of smx in code and 
documentation.

I agree that Camel has all components SMX has but the question is if they are 
as good as their 
smx pendants. For camel-mail <-> servicemix-mail I would say that the smx one 
has more functionality.
So I would not blindly thre away our components without checking that first.

Regards
Lars


Am 14.10.2010 um 16:35 schrieb Guillaume Nodet:

> I've had an interesting discussion today with jbonofre about ServiceMix
> future so I think we should get that on the dev list, hence this mail to
> start the discussion.   I've heard more and more people wondering about the
> value in ServiceMix compared to Karaf + Camel for example.  I wonder what
> your feedback is, how you feel about the future of ServiceMix and what we
> should do as a community.
> 
> As for my personal opinion, I think ServiceMix has a very strong brand as an
> open source ESB, but since ServiceMix 4.x, people tend to be confused about
> it.  I think there are several path forward.
> The first thing to state is that the JBI spec did not fulfill its promises.
> For various reasons (mostly political I think), the specs has not been
> backed by enough big vendors.   JBI 2.0 will never happen so the JBI spec is
> kinda dead.  The second fact is that more and more users tend to start new
> projects directly with Camel for a lot of valid reasons, mainly its ease of
> use and tons of connectors.  That does not mean they don't use ServiceMix as
> the runtime, just that they tend to let aside some features such as the JBI
> or NMR layer.
> Given those facts, I think one possible future would be to officially
> deprecate the JBI layer and components (i.e. maintaining those for
> compatibility, but not necessarily add new features) and focus on more value
> added such as better integration with third party projects (Ode, Hise,
> etc...) and maybe more tooling (monitoring, etc...).
> 
> Anyway, it's just my personal opinion and feedback, but i'd like to here
> what other think about that, so that we can move forward.  I'm sure there
> are a lot of different ways for ServiceMix' future, but the most important
> thing to me is to come up with a clear position that we all agree on and be
> in a better position to move forward and bring ServiceMix to the next level.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
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