I tend to agree with Gary on this one. We need to grow the community.

My other objection to moving Shale is based around it's implementation independents. By maintaining Shale's independence, we minimize the risk of including a MyFaces implementation dependency, like myfaces-common, into Shale-test. Yes, I know may of Shale's committers are MyFaces committers.

Going forward, I would like to see Shale's sub-projects have their own release cycle, but this discussion should be held in a different thread.

Paul Spencer


Gary VanMatre wrote:
-------------- Original message ---------------------- From:
"Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Kito Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hey Simon,

I don't think this has been officially decided. Check out the
recent thread on this topic.

However, if you're going to be making changes for JSF 2, this
might be a good time to move it over to MyFaces. I don't think
Gary agrees, though :-).
I am also +1 on the move ;-)


Humm, well, I don't understand why shale test is excluded from the
normal community protocol.  For goodness sakes, what if every project
felt it necessary to pull commons digester into their own just
because they use it.

I'd rather see the Shale community grow this library and the Shale
project.  However, if the communities feel that the only way we can
find volunteers to contribute to its ongoing growth (seems a bit
snobbish) is to move to MyFaces, then so be it.





On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Simon Lessard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,

I'm working on implementing JSF 2.0 for MyFaces and as you may
know, MyFaces uses Shale test for its unit testing. However,
the new API and contracts involved in JSF 2.0 make it so that
current test fails with an UnsupportedOperationException since
some test implementations don't override the new method that
weren't marked abstract for binary code compatibility.

Anyway, my point is, what is the current status and roadmap for
shale-test framework? Should JSF 2.0 changes be applied to it
or will it be integrated in in part or completely in MyFaces
with time?


Thanks,

~ Simon



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