Hi Craig, The difference is the test framework, or at least a part of it, is linked exclusively to JSF. More practically, what this mean is that we have a cyclic reference between the API and the test. For example, the test framework depends on FacesContext. However, since we like Shale test framework, we also test the API with the framework, now this is a chicken or egg issue.
This is even more problematic in case of JSF 2.0 since there's no released API to depend on, so I cannot modify the framework even by depending on SNAPSHOT pseudo release since I cannot build those with unit test sicne those unit tests aren't 2.0 compliant. I guess it would be possible to create a pseudo release skipping unit tests, but it seems against the standard quality reputation of Apache to do so. So, personally, I would have liked to put the JSF part of the framework in MyFaces test project and release the test jar at the same time as the core so that people can still use it as a dependency. Regards, ~ Simon On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Kito Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hey Simon, > > > > > > I don't think this has been officially decided. Check out the recent > > > thread on this topic. > > > > > > However, if you're going to be making changes for JSF 2, this might be > > > a good time to move it over to MyFaces. I don't think Gary agrees, > > > though :-). > > > > I am also +1 on the move ;-) > > > > Humm, well, I don't understand why shale test is excluded from the normal > community protocol. For goodness sakes, what if every project felt it > necessary to pull commons digester into their own just because they use it. > > I'd rather see the Shale community grow this library and the Shale project. > However, if the communities feel that the only way we can find volunteers > to contribute to its ongoing growth (seems a bit snobbish) is to move to > MyFaces, then so be it. > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Simon Lessard > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I'm working on implementing JSF 2.0 for MyFaces and as you may know, > MyFaces > > >> uses Shale test for its unit testing. However, the new API and > contracts > > >> involved in JSF 2.0 make it so that current test fails with an > > >> UnsupportedOperationException since some test implementations don't > override > > >> the new method that weren't marked abstract for binary code > compatibility. > > >> > > >> Anyway, my point is, what is the current status and roadmap for > shale-test > > >> framework? Should JSF 2.0 changes be applied to it or will it be > integrated > > >> in in part or completely in MyFaces with time? > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> > > >> ~ Simon > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action > > > http://twitter.com/kito99 > > > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and > mentoring > > > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info > > > +1 203-404-4848 x3 > > > > > > * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter! > http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 > > * > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > >
