Hi, Willem

Saga actuator could not compatible with ShardingSphere currently,  there are 2 
main problem exist.
 1. If sql execute in saga transport instead of ShardingSphere, we can not see 
the result of logic-sql even in one transaction, it is like this:
        update t_order set status=’start’ where usr_id=’tom’;      
        select status from t_order where usr_id=’tom’;                      —> 
we can’t query ’start’ record as actuator haven’t executed.
        Insert into t_order values(?,?,?) ;
 2. If logic-sql execute in ShardingSphere, we cannot handle recovery before 
submit graph result, as event log only wrote at saga engine.

so we should integrate saga-transaction like omega send event log step by step. 
It is better to make every instance do recovery Independently, instead of 
providing another coordinator center service.
I feel that embed saga should have following  capability.
  1).It can provide service in jar package independent
  2).each embed saga only recovery their own transaction-data of this instance.
       If one instance crashed, we can introduce external service to do 
failover. 

so we consider about exending saga-acutator, if it can support submit task step 
by step in one transaction, it is a good choice.
of course, there have many things we should do.

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Zhao Jun
Apache Sharding-Sphere & ServiceComb

> On Apr 29, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Willem Jiang <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> First Saga actuator need to build up the calling grapha before sending
> out the request.  I don't think you can do the step by step SQL
> invocation with Saga actuator.
> If you want to call the SQL execution step by step , you may need to
> switch to ServiceComb Pack project which has a coordinator to take
> care of the distributed transaction. But that introduce another
> endpoint(Alpha) to shardingsphere.
> 
> From my understanding, Saga actuator is most efficient way to execute
> the SQL across different data nodes.
> 
> 
> Willem Jiang
> 
> Twitter: willemjiang
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> 
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 6:41 PM zhaojun <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all
>> 
>> currently, we have integrated with saga using graph based engine in 
>> shardingsphere[1]
>> it need us to collect all participated actual SQL, then submit to saga 
>> actuator in commit/rollback phase.
>> if application crashed before invoking saga actuator, undo log of branch 
>> transaction SQL will not be saved,
>> so recovery thread will not be executed correctly.
>> 
>> it's better that encapsulating every actual SQL as a saga task in 
>> shardingsphere side,
>> then submit to saga actuator realtime instead of batch processing all the 
>> SQLs at commit/rollback phase.
>> this architecture will make the boundary more clear between shardingsphre 
>> and saga, currently we have done some additional works for integrating saga.
>> 
>> any thought?
>> 
>> [1]:https://github.com/sharding-sphere/shardingsphere-spi-impl/tree/master/sharding-transaction-spi-impl/sharding-transaction-base-spi-impl/sharding-transaction-base-saga
>>  
>> <https://github.com/sharding-sphere/shardingsphere-spi-impl/tree/master/sharding-transaction-spi-impl/sharding-transaction-base-spi-impl/sharding-transaction-base-saga>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------
>> Zhao Jun
>> Apache Sharding-Sphere & ServiceComb
>> 

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