Hi,

Maybe I'm misreading the sheet but it looks like Ling Yue and Hongtao Gao have 
not contributed anything to the project. It looks like they have not been 
active on mail lists either. If this is true, I'd probably remove them from the 
proposed PMC. Include them as committers if they had contributions before 
incubating. 

Yongsheng Peng did contribute a PR so I would not drop him from the PMC.

Finally, I would include all of the PPMC and committers who did contribute 
during the incubation process. 

Just a suggestion: If you want only people who are paying attention, you could 
start a doc with the graduation proposal and ask folks on the dev@ list to add 
their names if they are interested in becoming part of the PMC. 

Craig

> On Feb 6, 2020, at 8:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> I agree to remove Yongsheng Peng and always welcome him come back when he
> feel free.
> 
> Other initial PPMC had contributed before ShardingSphere go to incubator, I
> prefer keep them and let them as PMC in future.
> 
> ------------------
> 
> Liang Zhang (John)
> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
> 
> 
> Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午7:44写道:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> From my reading of this data, all initial PPMC and current committers
>> are/were contributing to the project a lot with only one exception,
>> Yongsheng Peng.
>> He is SkyWalking's PMC, used to ask contributions to the ShardingSphere, so
>> he was added when the project joined the incubator. But during the journey,
>> he didn't do that. I think it makes sense to remove him.
>> 
>> What do others think?
>> 
>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>> 
>> 
>> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午5:28写道:
>> 
>>> Sure, please see google excel doc. [1]
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19U4t0rAnLbQW02qZlZ1lwZCB7sZxGUiMMmv8zEpee9g/edit?usp=sharing
>>> 
>>> ------------------
>>> 
>>> Liang Zhang (John)
>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午5:14写道:
>>> 
>>>> Liang
>>>> 
>>>> Could you change this to a google excel doc? The email is hard to read.
>>>> 
>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午5:12写道:
>>>> 
>>>>> The statistics after incubator:
>>>>> 
>>>>> PPMCs:
>>>>> 
>>>>> | *Name*            | *Mails* | *Assigned Issues* | *Merged PRs* |
>>> *Code
>>>>> ++* | *Code --* | *Doc ++* | *Doc --* |
>>>>> | ----------------- | ------- | ----------------- | ------------ |
>>>>> --------- | --------- | -------- | -------- |
>>>>> | Hao Cao           | 6       | 2                 | 14           |
>>> 1,278
>>>>>  | 44        | 5        | 5        |
>>>>> | Hongjun Du        | 12      | 38                | 67           |
>>> 38,788
>>>>> | 33,670    | 2        | 0        |
>>>>> | Hongtao Gao       | 2       | 0                 | 0            | 0
>>>>>  | 0         | 0        | 0        |
>>>>> | Juan Pan          | 167     | 85                | 319          |
>>> 91,675
>>>>> | 71,611    | 1,300,919| 1,284,356|
>>>>> | Jun Zhao          | 46      | 76                | 130          |
>>>> 166,356
>>>>>  | 170,890   | 2,138    | 2,122    |
>>>>> | Liang Zhang       | 279     | 130               | 164          |
>>>>> 1,198,935 | 1,245,278 | 691,617  | 54,337   |
>>>>> | Ling Yue          | 0       | 0                 | 0            | 0
>>>>>  | 0         | 0        | 0        |
>>>>> | Qingyang Chen     | 9       | 10                | 8            |
>>> 24,115
>>>>> | 18,901    | 237      | 0        |
>>>>> | Sheng Wu          | 175     | 1                 | 2            | 18
>>>>> | 1         | 0        | 0        |
>>>>> | Xiaoguang Ma      | 1       | 2                 | 17           |
>>> 7,279
>>>>>  | 4,741     | 173      | 60       |
>>>>> | Yi Yang           | 56      | 83                | 101          |
>>> 24,556
>>>>> | 13,150    | 1,289    | 217      |
>>>>> | Yonglun Zhang     | 87      | 126               | 124          |
>>>> 103,754
>>>>>  | 65,066    | 18,733   | 18,249   |
>>>>> | Yongsheng Peng    | 3       | 0                 | 1            |
>> 262
>>>>>  | 0         | 0        | 0        |
>>>>> 
>>>>> Committers:
>>>>> 
>>>>> | *Name*            | *Mails* | *Assigned Issues* | *Merged PRs* |
>>> *Code
>>>>> ++* | *Code --* | *Doc ++* | *Doc --* |
>>>>> | ----------------- | ------- | ----------------- | ------------ |
>>>>> --------- | --------- | -------- | -------- |
>>>>> | Guangyuan Wang    | 28      | 5                 | 21           |
>>> 6,130
>>>>>  | 2,458     | 290      | 190      |
>>>>> | Haisheng Sun      | 18      | 20                | 26           |
>>> 4,791
>>>>>  | 1,877     | 12       | 8        |
>>>>> | Xiaofeng Jiang    | 5       | 21                | 31           |
>>> 29,296
>>>>> | 291       | 0        | 0        |
>>>>> | Qi Wang           | 5       | 21                | 62           |
>>> 24,040
>>>>> | 10,437    | 1,978    | 1,968    |
>>>>> | Ya Li             | 0       | 6                 | 21           |
>>> 6,070
>>>>>  | 1,282     | 55       | 34       |
>>>>> | Yanan Zhao        | 0       | 10                | 23           |
>>> 82,293
>>>>> | 3,864     | 0        | 897      |
>>>>> | Wen Ouyang        | 2       | 9                 | 19           |
>> 673
>>>>>  | 11        | 2        | 0        |
>>>>> | Zhiyi Yan         | 6       | 4                 | 18           |
>>> 10,693
>>>>> | 2,117     | 13       | 11       |
>>>>> | ZongLei Dong      | 20      | 7                 | 21           |
>>> 3,637
>>>>>  | 3,520     | 20       | 18       |
>>>>> 
>>>>> The statistics before incubator:
>>>>> 
>>>>> | *Name*            | *Code ++* | *Code --* |
>>>>> | ----------------- | --------- | --------- |
>>>>> | Hao Cao           | 136,639   | 112,458   |
>>>>> | Hongjun Du        | 63,910    | 54,490    |
>>>>> | Hongtao Gao       | 15,523    | 20,038    |
>>>>> | Juan Pan          | 102,269   | 93,376    |
>>>>> | Jun Zhao          | 24,483    | 22,539    |
>>>>> | Liang Zhang       | 818,555   | 892,431   |
>>>>> | Ling Yue          | 404       | 213       |
>>>>> | Qingyang Chen     | 3,900     | 1,205     |
>>>>> | Sheng Wu          | 21        | 21        |
>>>>> | Xiaoguang Ma      | 15,138    | 6,025     |
>>>>> | Yi Yang           | 4,600     | 1,840     |
>>>>> | Yonglun Zhang     | 14,171    | 8,645     |
>>>>> 
>>>>> Our community care about now and future, we respect history too.
>> Thank
>>>> you
>>>>> for every PPMC and committer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please feel free to discuss about the PMC list for graduation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四 下午1:54写道:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年2月6日周四
>> 上午2:00写道:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Before I list all PPMCs and committers, we need to discuss the
>> rule
>>>> of
>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> to define `inactive` PPMC.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The rules maybe:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  - Stop contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there are initial PPMCs staying in this way, I prefer to keep
>> them
>>>> as
>>>>>> committer only.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  - Rare contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator. We
>> need
>>> to
>>>>>>> define how to define `rare` too.
>>>>>>>  - Stop contribution during past period until now. The
>> definition
>>> of
>>>>>>> `during past period` maybe one year or half year.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I prefer at least one year(or equal 2, the whole incubator
>> journey).
>>>>>> If they still contribute anything from time to time, even talk at
>> the
>>>>>> Conference/Meetup in public, I hope we should trust them and keep
>>> them
>>>> in
>>>>>> final PMCs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If we decide follow these rules, we may let these PPMCs as
>>>> committers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And do we need to discuss the rules to upgrade committers to PMC?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If no objection, we could just do it. Let's list this as a default
>> in
>>>> the
>>>>>> resolution.
>>>>>> Liang, after you have the stat, we could exclude `Stop contribution
>>>> after
>>>>>> ShardingSphere goto incubator` people from the final PMC list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年2月5日周三 下午9:28写道:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Zonglei Dong <[email protected]> 于2020年2月5日周三 下午9:19写道:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Sheng, Liang,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As a committer, I want to take on greater responsibility,
>> make
>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> contribution to ShardingSphere and take better practice for
>>>> Apache
>>>>>> Way
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the future.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I understand some permissions only for PMC(or PPMC), e.g
>>> release
>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> version, Does there are any difference between PMC and
>>> committer?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For release, the committer is enough to go for a release, you
>>> just
>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> PMC's vote to make release official.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As an active PMC member should
>>>>>>>> 1. Watching the project to follow the Apache way
>>>>>>>> 2. Watching the branding issue, and work on the issues if find
>>>>> it(such
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> talk with other committer/contributor or 3rd party)
>>>>>>>> 3. Find and promote new committer and PMC member
>>>>>>>> For more, read https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also, in the Apache, we don't(also shouldn't) require people
>>> always
>>>>>>> active.
>>>>>>>> You could do these in part-time, or when you have time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> Best wishes.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Zonglei Dong
>>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 02/5/2020 20:34,Sheng Wu<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I had the impression that inactive PPMC will be excluded to
>>>> become
>>>>>> PMC.
>>>>>>>>> ALL in or not?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Do you have the list? I think if some of them stop
>> contributing
>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> project after joining the incubator, I could exclude those.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I nominate myself as project VP because my responsibility is
>>>>> monthly
>>>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>>> to incubator, and I will in charge of to report to ASF in
>>> future.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all
>>>> current
>>>>>>>>> committers as committers too.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Personally, I prefer to move all committers to PMC. I trust
>>> they
>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> follow the more experienced PMC's suggestions and they
>> wouldn't
>>>>> break
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ASF rules intentionally.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> To All committer(but not PMC)
>>>>>>>>> What do you think? I would like to support their own
>> decision.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Juan Pan <[email protected]> 于2020年2月5日周三 下午6:55写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all
>>>> current
>>>>>>>>> committers as committers too.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I had the impression that inactive PPMC will be excluded to
>>>> become
>>>>>> PMC.
>>>>>>>>> ALL in or not?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Juan Pan (Trista)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
>>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 02/5/2020 17:38,[email protected]<
>> [email protected]
>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I want discuss about project VP, PMC and committer list after
>>>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>> I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all
>>>> current
>>>>>>>>> committers as committers too.
>>>>>>>>> The almost committers are new guys for ShardingSphere, they
>> may
>>>>> need
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> experiences for open source community governance, we can vote
>>>>>>> committers
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> PMC one by one after graduation.
>>>>>>>>> I nominate myself as project VP because my responsibility is
>>>>> monthly
>>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>>> to incubator, and I will in charge of to report to ASF in
>>> future.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any suggestion?
>>>>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
>>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年1月20日周一
>>>>>> 下午3:26写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Got it, it means those threads are not block for our
>>> graduation,
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> could be done anytime.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
>>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Juan Pan <[email protected]> 于2020年1月20日周一 上午10:14写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Got it, it means those threads are not block for our
>>> graduation,
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> could be done anytime.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Juan Pan (Trista)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
>>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 01/19/2020 10:37,Sheng Wu<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> As far as those docs and examples already in the Apache
>> repos,
>>> I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>> those are irrelavent.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Juan Pan <[email protected]> 于2020年1月19日周日 上午10:30写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1 Agreeing to put graduation into our upcoming agenda. BTW,
>> do
>>>> you
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>> we need  finish the work discussed in other thread, like
>> moving
>>>> doc
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> example repos to ShardingSphere repo?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Juan Pan (Trista)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating)
>>>>>>>>> E-mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 01/17/2020 23:39,[email protected]<
>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I list remain issues here:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 1. Remove author information in java code, copyright should
>>>> belong
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> ASF.
>>>>>>>>> 2. Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name
>>>>>>>>> `io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as
>>> `io.opensharding`.
>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/OpenSharding>3. Let the major
>> contributors
>>>> to
>>>>>> sign
>>>>>>>>> ICLA
>>>>>>>>> if they haven't singed yet.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please complement the list if I missing anything.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/OpenSharding
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
>>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu <[email protected]> 于2020年1月17日周五 下午6:01写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From my perspective, we should. Like I said in another
>> thread.
>>>>>>>>> I think we should be ready to consider and filter whether we
>>> have
>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> issue before graduation.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]> 于2020年1月17日周五
>>>>>> 下午3:10写道:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello community,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to talk about graduation as TLP for Apache
>>>>>>>>> ShardingSphere(Incubator).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We were open source at 16th Jan 2016, and entered into ASF
>>>>> incubator
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> 10th Nov 2018. During the past period in incubator, our
>>> community
>>>>>> grow
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I summarize some data below:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - There are 1301 emails sent by 159 people in dev
>> mailing-list
>>>>>> excepted
>>>>>>>>> GitBox forwarded;
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - 2539 Issues created during ASF incubating, 2468 Issues
>>> resolved
>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>> ASF incubating;
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - 1073 PRs created during ASF incubating, 918 PRs merged
>> during
>>>> ASF
>>>>>>>>> incubating;
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - There are 89 contributors for now;
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - There are 4 versions released successfully conformant to
>>> Apache
>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>> policy by 3 release managers;
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - There are 2 new PPMCs and 8 new committers were invited to
>>> join
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We had already finished the Podling Maturity Assessment for
>>>>>>>>> ShardingSphere[1], the 34 items are all passed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We had resolved all branding issues which include Logo,
>> GitHub
>>>>> repo,
>>>>>>>>> document, website and DockerHub image.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Can we talk about when will start to consider about graduate?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-shardingsphere/blob/dev/MATURITY.md
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Liang Zhang (John)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

Craig L Russell
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