Because the release date is coming soon, I will do this issue.

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Sincerely,
Liang Zhang (John)
Apache ShardingSphere


Harvey <[email protected]> 于2020年9月16日周三 下午8:03写道:

> Looks good to me
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hongwei Li
>
> > On Sep 16, 2020, at 1:43 AM, "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Primary-replica is good to me.
> >
> > So, how about:
> >
> > MasterSlave -> PrimaryReplicaReplication
> > MasterDataSource -> PrimaryDataSource
> > SlaveDataSource -> ReplicaDataSource
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Liang Zhang (John)
> > Apache ShardingSphere
> >
> >
> > Hongwei Li <[email protected]> 于2020年9月14日周一 下午10:31写道:
> >
> >> FYI:
> >> primary and replica, replica replication are widely used terms in AWS.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/database/best-practices-for-amazon-rds-postgresql-replication/
> >>
> >>
> https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonElastiCache/latest/red-ug/Replication.Redis.Groups.html
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 1:07 AM Juan Pan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Liang,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I also looked through many docs of other databases,
> >>> like MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, and MongoDB.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> For me, I can accept your proposal.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In short, no matter `PrimarySecondaryReplication` or
> >>> `PrimaryReplicaReplication`,
> >>> IMO. We need to focus on `replication` which means a synchronization
> >>> process
> >>> among primary nodes and secondary nodes (Replica nodes).
> >>> The links below will help me explain more.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>
> https://medium.com/@Jelastic/mongodb-replica-set-with-master-slave-replication-and-automated-failover-be3cb374452
> >>> [2]
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.datadriveninvestor.com/2020/05/28/the-master-slave-database-concept-for-beginners/
> >>> [3] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/warm-standby.html
> >>> [4]
> >>>
> >>
> https://mariadb.com/resources/blog/database-master-slave-replication-in-the-cloud/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Trista
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Juan Pan (Trista)
> >>>
> >>> Senior DBA & PMC of Apache ShardingSphere
> >>> E-mail: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 09/14/2020 12:34,[email protected]<[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> I investigate related materials again, maybe read-write-spilt is not a
> >> good
> >>> name.
> >>>
> >>> There are two features in Apache ShardingSphere now, master-slave and
> >>> replica.
> >>>
> >>> Master-slave:
> >>> Write to master data source and replication data to slave data sources
> >>> async, and then read from slave data sources.
> >>> Benefit: performance.
> >>>
> >>> Replica:
> >>> Still in dev mode, we plan to use Raft algorithm to keep the multiple
> >>> replicas with consensus.
> >>> Benefit: consensus.
> >>>
> >>> The tow features can not use together, users can choose one of them in
> >> the
> >>> same time only.
> >>>
> >>> I prefer to rename master-slave module to
> primary-secondary-replication,
> >>> and rename replica module to consensus-replication.
> >>> The new names can describe the feature more accurate and can let user
> to
> >>> know they are mutually exclusive.
> >>>
> >>> Primary-standby-replication is another choice, but I am afraid the
> >> meaning
> >>> of `standby` is waiting here and do nothing if normal,
> >>> but the secondary data source still need to process the query requests.
> >>>
> >>> So, how about to rename the concept to:
> >>>
> >>> MasterSlave -> PrimarySecondaryReplication
> >>> MasterDataSource -> PrimaryDataSource
> >>> SlaveDataSource -> SecondaryDataSource
> >>>
> >>> Please advice me.
> >>>
> >>> ------------------
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>> Apache ShardingSphere
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hongwei Li <[email protected]> 于2020年9月14日周一 下午12:02写道:
> >>>
> >>> I don't have any idea about how the module
> 'shardingsphere-master-slave'
> >> vs
> >>> 'shardingsphere-read-write-split', was named.
> >>> If there was no specific reason, it is like a historical debt, but does
> >> not
> >>> matter so much, as it has been there for a long time, everyone knows
> >>> the function of the module.
> >>> In the meantime, 'read-write-split' is more obvious from the
> >>> processing/action perspective of the module. 'Master/Slave' is also
> fine
> >>> from the processing object(datasource) perspective.
> >>>
> >>> For simple processing and not considering much, the replacement of
> >>> 'master/slave' to 'primary/replica' including the combinations is much
> >>> straightforward. It is kind of 'leave it as is' processing.
> >>>
> >>> For moving one step further, renaming the module to 'read-write-split'
> >> is a
> >>> way to go. The questions are:
> >>> shall we replace 'MasterSlave' as 'ReadWriteSplit' at all places?
> >>> Do we need to consider if the replacement is meaningful at any place,
> >> such
> >>> as the below names:
> >>> MasterSlaveDataSourceRuleConfiguration
> >>> MasterSlaveLoadBalanceAlgorithm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:29 PM [email protected] <
> >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I like
> >>>
> >>> MasterDataSource -> PrimaryDataSource
> >>> SlaveDataSource -> ReplicaDataSource
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> But I am not sure about
> >>>
> >>> MasterSlave -> PrimaryReplica
> >>>
> >>> Because ShardingSphere's feature is route the update SQL
> >>> to PrimaryDataSource and route the query SQL to ReplicaDataSource.
> >>> The name ReadWriteSplit may describe the feature more clear.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions?
> >>>
> >>> ------------------
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>> Apache ShardingSphere
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Juan Pan <[email protected]> 于2020年9月13日周日 上午10:07写道:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Craig,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your suggestion. :-)
> >>> For me, both `primary` and `source` are ok.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> usually using terms like "primary", "secondary", "source", and
> >>> "replica"
> >>> Considering the expression above is mentioned in [1].
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> There are good reasons for MySQL to use "source" instead of "primary"
> >>> because in their model there may be many "source" databases.
> >>> Actually, ShardingSphere could also have many "source" databases
> >>> (Depending on the user's configuration).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> MasterSlave -> ReadWriteSplit
> >>> IMO, this renaming does not sound wonderful. I prefer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> MasterSlave -> PrimaryReplica  or MasterSlave -> SourceReplica
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Moreover, I'd like to listen to others' opinions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://mysqlhighavailability.com/mysql-terminology-updates/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Trista
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Juan Pan (Trista)
> >>>
> >>> Senior DBA & PMC of Apache ShardingSphere
> >>> E-mail: [email protected]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 09/12/2020 22:26,Craig Russell<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> This will be a significant change so I think it would be good to
> >>> resolve
> >>> all of the naming before any PR is proposed. The first place to start
> >>> might
> >>> be the documentation to see all of the name changes in one place.
> >>>
> >>> There are good reasons for MySQL to use "source" instead of "primary"
> >>> because in their model there may be many "source" databases.
> >>> Personally I
> >>> don't think "source" is particularly obvious to users, but they did not
> >>> ask
> >>> me. ;-)
> >>>
> >>> For ShardingSphere, "primary" and "replica" seem to be better choices.
> >>> It
> >>> will be easy for us to tell users that ShardingSphere's "replica"
> >>> corresponds to MySQL's "source".
> >>>
> >>> So the concepts to be changed might be:
> >>>
> >>> MasterSlave -> PrimaryReplica
> >>> MasterDataSource -> PrimaryDataSource
> >>> SlaveDataSource -> ReplicaDataSource
> >>>
> >>> And again, it might be easier to review the name changes in the context
> >>> of
> >>> documentation changes.
> >>>
> >>> HTH,
> >>> Craig
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 6, 2020, at 2:42 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I want to discuss to rename MasterSlave module to ReadWriteSplit
> >>> module.
> >>>
> >>> MySQL[1] has already change the master and slave to source and replica.
> >>>
> >>> Some concepts I plan to change:
> >>>
> >>> MasterSlave -> ReadWriteSplit
> >>> MasterDataSource -> SourceDataSource
> >>> SlaveDataSource -> ReplicaDataSource
> >>>
> >>> Please advice me.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://mysqlhighavailability.com/mysql-terminology-updates/
> >>>
> >>> ------------------
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>> Liang Zhang (John)
> >>> Apache ShardingSphere
> >>>
> >>> Craig L Russell
> >>> [email protected]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>

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