I fully support git submodules. +1 dawid.
Most of the problems with it that people complain about, are perceived
problems, not real ones.

On Fri, 30 Apr, 2021, 10:50 pm Dawid Weiss, <[email protected]> wrote:

> We've had that discussion before -- this is where git submodules are
> excellent to work with - you know exactly which version you had for
> each commit... this said, there are other pitfalls to using submodules
> so it's not all rosy either.
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 4:41 PM Mike Drob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Note that this happened again last night, and Jason was able to
> > quickly fix it. But it makes things like 'git bisect' impossible to
> > chase a bug because none of the older versions will compile.
> >
> > I don't think we can pin to a SNAPSHOT version because there are no
> > guarantees about how long those versions stick around. Maybe we can
> > ask Lucene to release a 9.0.0-alpha just so that we have some kind of
> > tag that we can stick to, with the understanding that this alpha tag
> > has no guarantees about future compatibility.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 2:36 AM Dawid Weiss <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > But how do you pin to an intermediate version without a snapshot maven
> > > repository that would keep those pinned artifacts?
> > >
> > > Dawid
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 9:45 PM David Smiley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 Jan, that sounds complementary to what I propose.  We'd get
> notifications via Jenkins that there are some compatibility issues.  But
> we'd still pin a version and upgrade at a time of our choosing.
> > > >
> > > > ~ David Smiley
> > > > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:35 AM Jan Høydahl <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> It could be feasible to let Jenkins do a periodic run (weekly?) of
> main branch with lucene SNAPSHOT. We can perhaps define a gradle property
> to override lucene version? -Dlucene.version=10.0.0-SNAPSHOT which Jenkins
> could easily trigger. I think a similar thought has been discussed before.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jan
> > > >>
> > > >> 29. apr. 2021 kl. 17:20 skrev Gus Heck <[email protected]>:
> > > >>
> > > >> We should still have some way of detecting these breakages early
> rather than later (or worse yet after lucene has released something). The
> easiest time to fix a problem is before someone else built on top of it.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:15 AM Jason Gerlowski <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> +1
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:12 AM Jan Høydahl
> > > >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > +1 to pin. There will probably be a few more months until 9.0
> given that 8.9 must be released first etc.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Jan
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > 29. apr. 2021 kl. 17:08 skrev David Smiley <[email protected]>:
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > There have been some discussions previously about whether to pin
> the Lucene snapshot version until 9.0 is out, so that we update it manually
> instead of it being ~daily.  Most recently in Slack but also this thread
> "Solr fails with current lucene-9.0.0-SNAPSHOT (LUCENE-9387)".  I think the
> rate of spontaneous breaking has increased beyond my comfort level from
> being ambivalent on the matter to preferring more control of when we
> update.  I know that may be as late as possible :-) but it minimizes
> surprises/disruptions.  If there are no vetos on the matter in this thread,
> I'll throw up a PR.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > ~ David Smiley
> > > >>> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > > >>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
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