Just clarifyng, but the "Solr Benchmark Module" you're referring to here is your work from SOLR-15428? Or something else?
Jason On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 12:16 AM Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I’m about ready to commit the first iteration of the Solr benchmark module. > > It is meant to target both micro and macro benchmarks, though it is additive > to, not a replacement for, Gatling and a full performance cluster. > > The inner workings of Solr and SolrCloud have always been something of a > mystery to me. Benchmarking has been as well. Not that I ever spent any time > thinking clearly about that. > > If I had, I wouldn’t have had an alternative plan to rectify it. And it > didn’t matter. It didn’t affect me getting work. It didn’t affect my bonus > from the boss. > > Over the past few years I did start to learn something about these mysteries > though. Not with a genius plan of attack. Not with a strategy I can write > down on the wiki and successfully share with you. I did it by attacking > everything in sight. And then improving my sight. > > If some genius computer God once said “don’t do this”, I did and found out > why not. If something looked huge effort for unlikely reasonable return, I > did it. And maybe scrapped it. If something took literally 16 hours just to > manually process the code changes with 0 thought the whole time and > repetitive pain and loud expletives accompanying the final hours, I did it. > And sometimes maybe scrapped it later. If there was a rabbit hole, I went > down it. > > I used the tests to chase features and code and surface area I’d never have > touched or even known existed. I spent hundreds of hours or more building > tools and hundreds more coopting existing tools to expand my grasp and view. > I went after other code bases with a similar attack and less depth to raise > my vantage point. > > And I could go on, except that illustrates my point and there is little value > in doing so. > > So I learned a couple things on that journey. And I found an answer or two. > Formed an opinion or three. And I’ve had to think. Think about how I can turn > that into some value for Apache Solr. I chose to do that work, but I was also > paid during that time. Paid for work that is supposed to end up returning > value. The basic employer / employee contract. > > I will never march down that path again. The destination was never really the > point. No sane developer would or could join the full trip. > > I have to use that journey to plot a new one. > > Thought one: there was huge value in playing around with the system. Trying a > wide range of things simply. Getting valuable and low effort feedback and > introspection easily. > > Thought two: I did not play around or explore much before, or see it done, > because it was high effort to explore even a small surface area. Even more > effort to properly vet or ensure getting quality results or information from > it. > > Thought three: Continuing on thought two, setting up good experiments is very > difficult. Collecting results and evaluating the quality of those results is > very difficult. More difficult than many developers who would immediately > agree with those statements even know. In the way that Elon Musk knew fully > self driving cars would be difficult. But he didn’t know it would be “that” > difficult. Of course a smaller percentage of developers do know the extent of > it. > > Thought four: When the above was even attempted, it was generally by > developers working in isolation. And climbing on their own scaffolding that > was not peer reviewed and either tossed out, abandoned, reconstructed, or > maybe eventually reused by one. > > Thought five: Building something that allows for exploration and > experimentation essentially always reduces to some kind of benchmark type > framework. And benchmarks are notoriously and ridiculously difficult. See > above. Any project that wants to truly benefit from them needs to work on > them together. And retain them. And improve them. And retain and improve the > knowledge behind them. > > And so we come to the Solr benchmark module. I’ve poured some of my knowledge > and experience into standing up an initial framework. I will document it. I > will share a video explaining some of the what and why and how. And I will > make it so easy to join in on that the only reason a developer will not join > the effort is because they have no interest in understanding or improving the > system and their changes. > > So I will make a commit next week. And then I will continue to move it > forward. I encourage you to take a look and evaluate what return for what > effort you might get from joining in. > > MRM > > > -- > - Mark > > http://about.me/markrmiller --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org