Did we want to try and remove Tika (and it’s long list of dependencies) from 
Solr 9?   The Tika 2.0 project provides a much lighter way of integrating Tika 
that could be used in Solr….


> On Oct 22, 2021, at 6:13 PM, Houston Putman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dont want to start a bike shed here, but on the v2 api topic, I am not in 
> support of deprecation/removal yet. Beyond the support not being universal, I 
> think there are a good number of V2 apis that are worse than the v1 apis. I 
> think if we really want to remove v1 we need to go take another look, come up 
> with a consistent pattern across the project and then create a v3 that makes 
> more sense. Currently I dont see the v2 api as a livability improvement over 
> v1. 
> 
> - Houston
> 
> 2021년 10월 22일 (금) 오후 5:37, Jan Høydahl <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>>님이 작성:
> Marcus, there are two different things being discussed here - Http2Client and 
> V2Api. Jason commented on the V2-Api part.is <http://part.is/> there an 
> umbrella Jira with open subtasks for every Api that is not covered in V2?
> 
> Jan Høydahl
> 
>> 22. okt. 2021 kl. 22:57 skrev Marcus Eagan <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> 
>> 
> 
>> Jason, You raise a good point. Can you elaborate on the "big gap" in the 
>> ticket?
>> 
>> The only one I saw in there was DelegationTokenHttpSolrClient, and that is 
>> deprecated itself. I think it would be helpful to enumerate the gaps very 
>> clearly so that people can divide and conquer supporting them for v2. 
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:39 PM Jason Gerlowski <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > Is it too early to deprecate V1 APIs in 8.11?
>> 
>> I think so, unfortunately.  The docs in particular have seen big
>> strides in their v2 coverage, but the code itself still has a pretty
>> big gap to close in terms of bringing the v2 APIs into parity with v1.
>> A lot of v1 APIs have parameters that aren't exposed in the v2
>> equivalent, etc.  If there was interest we could probably deprecate
>> certain sections of our v1 API, but we're definitely not ready to do
>> it across the board IMO.
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 2:28 PM Gus Heck <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The list seems to be missing 
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14290 
>> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14290> ?  If that's not fixed 
>> > folks who have used our test framework for their own tests will have 
>> > issues.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 11:27 AM Jan Høydahl <[email protected] 
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yep, that is a more precise description :)
>> >>
>> >> Is it too early to deprecate V1 APIs in 8.11? There has been some great 
>> >> effort to get the v2 APIs up to date lately.
>> >> Perhaps for 9.0 it is enough to use V2 in all tutorials and ref-guide, 
>> >> and also Admin UI. And then deprecate v1 in 9.x and remove in 10.0
>> >>
>> >> Jan
>> >>
>> >> 22. okt. 2021 kl. 04:01 skrev David Smiley <[email protected] 
>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the reminder; I'll get to some of these slowly after the 8.11 
>> >> feature-freeze.
>> >>
>> >> Note that in SOLR-15223, the point is not "HTTP1 deprecation", it's 
>> >> deprecating one of our two HTTP clients.  The one we are keeping (Jetty 
>> >> client) can talk HTTP1 (and it will if it talks to older Solr servers) -- 
>> >> that isn't deprecated.
>> >>
>> >> ~ David Smiley
>> >> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley 
>> >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 9:19 AM Jan Høydahl <[email protected] 
>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> The Lucene 9.0 release is starting to materialize with a clearn timeline 
>> >>> for v8.11 as the last 8.x and then 9.0 immediately after.
>> >>>
>> >>> We should start preparing for Solr 9.0 by updating the list of real 
>> >>> blockers and decide which of those require commits in 8.x (deprecations, 
>> >>> preparation for upgrade compat).
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's the current blocker list for Solr: 
>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20priority%20%3D%20Blocker%20AND%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%22main%20(9.0)%22%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC%2C%20updated%20DESC
>> >>>  
>> >>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20SOLR%20AND%20priority%20%3D%20Blocker%20AND%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%22main%20(9.0)%22%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC%2C%20updated%20DESC>
>> >>>
>> >>> <Skjermbilde 2021-10-21 kl. 15.16.06.png>
>> >>>
>> >>> Please review these. I think several can be closed as unrealistic, and 
>> >>> probably new ones can be added. I have started looking at HTTP1 
>> >>> deprecation in SOLR-15223.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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