It doesn't seem that bad, yet I know some people will freak. According
to the proposal, it will say this:


WARNING: A command line option has enabled the Security Manager
WARNING: The Security Manager is deprecated and will be removed in a
future release


I think the modularization goal is great, and I feel the same way for
dev and prod. Is there a ticket for dev and prod modes. I think I
could schedule time to do that


On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 3:22 PM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:

> What is this warning message?
> Regardless, bin/solr could detect that this scenario is going to occur and
> print a message of its own so that users have better context on the
> situation.
>
> In other ways, we are investing in securing Solr.  Modularization comes to
> my mind first.  And I really wish for a dev vs prod mode to gate better
> defaults but no action there yet :-/.
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 5:22 PM Marcus Eagan <marcusea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As a part of the Log4j madness we all have dealt with, I learned of
>> JEP-411(https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/411). There is a wish to deprecate
>> the Security Manager in Java 17 for eventual removal. I feel it is likely
>> to land. As a result, I think we should start to think about what it means
>> to run SOLR without the option of a Security Manager for SOLR 10 (or
>> whatever the next major version will be named). I know that people can turn
>> it off today if they wish to do so.
>>
>> Is it premature to have this discussion?
>>
>> I suggest it is not too early because there is a proposed warning message
>> on startup of an application with Security Manager. The message alone could
>> cause problems for some organizations using SOLR and lead them to abandon
>> the project. Instead, there would need to be a multi-person effort to
>> ensure that other countermeasures are sufficient and/or added to protect
>> SOLR users from more pernicious and pervasive threats in today's world and
>> the future. Enabling the Security Manager by default in SOLR was a good
>> future-proofing measure for today's reality.
>>
>> Thank you all for your contributions,
>>
>> --
>> Marcus Eagan
>>
>>

-- 
Marcus Eagan

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