Do people want to spend the next ten years explaining that the the alerting 
feature is called “Luwak”? I’d call it “Alerting” or “Alerts".  —wonder

> On May 1, 2024, at 1:16 PM, Houston Putman <hous...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I think I'd prefer a more self-descriptive name than "Luwak", which is just
> a product name that was decided a while ago.
> 
> I kind of like "search-alerts". "query-alerts" sounds like alerting on
> query metrics, but IMO "search-alerts" doesn't come with the same baggage.
> 
> Luwak is fine though if everyone agrees on that.
> 
> On one hand we have a number of committers here from
>> Bloomberg, yet the abandoned and now-removed "analytics" component
>> shows that abandonment is a risk nonetheless.
>> 
> 
> I don't want to bikeshed here, but I'm not sure this is a fair
> assessment of what happened with the analytics module.
> Sure there wasn't a ton of development, but in general it was feature rich
> and had very little feature requests.
> It was removed in 10, because a lack of user usage, not because it was
> "abandoned" IMO. If there were requests from users
> to keep it or improve it, then it would be a much different story. The
> whole "thrown over the wall" comment is fair, but
> not particularly relevant to this PR, which is being worked on in public.
> 
> I think this is certainly something that can start in the sandbox and move
> into the main repo once it's clear that there is interest from
> multiple committers and community members in using and maintaining it.
> 
> - Houston
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 2:32 PM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Luwak is good to me!
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 4:01 PM Luke Kot-Zaniewski (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD
>> A) <lkotzanie...@bloomberg.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love the name "luwak"! I was about to suggest the same but was worried
>> about the trademark concerns and I assumed there was a reason they changed
>> the name when donating it to lucene.
>>> 
>>> From: dev@solr.apache.org At: 04/30/24 15:56:22 UTC-4:00To:
>> dev@solr.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: solr query alerting
>>> 
>>> Luwak is the original name of the Lucene monitor, contributed by Flax
>> back in
>>> the days: https://github.com/flaxsearch/luwak
>>> 
>>> Perhaps we could go full circle (if no trademark issues) to call it the
>> Solr
>>> luwak module? Luwak is a type of coffee, and thus related to percolator
>> 😉
>>> 
>>> Otherwise “stored-queries” is an option.
>>> 
>>> Jan Høydahl
>>> 
>>>> 30. apr. 2024 kl. 19:26 skrev David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org>:
>>>> 
>>>> I agree the feature is relevant / useful.
>>>> 
>>>> Another angle on the module vs sandbox or wherever else is maintenance
>>>> cost.  If a lot of code is being contributed as is here, then as a PMC
>>>> member I hope to get a subjective sense that folks are interested in
>>>> maintaining it.  On one hand we have a number of committers here from
>>>> Bloomberg, yet the abandoned and now-removed "analytics" component
>>>> shows that abandonment is a risk nonetheless.  I don't know how to
>>>> conclude this thought but I'm hoping to hear from folks that they
>>>> intend to look after this module.  It's not just being "thrown over
>>>> the wall", so to speak.
>>>> 
>>>> Naming is hard...
>>>> * ...-monitor-....: sorry I hate it
>>>> * ...-percolator-.... No clue why this was chosen for ElasticSearch.
>>>> I can appreciate a curious/non-obvious name like this that is not
>>>> going to conflict with anyone's guesses at what a general name might
>>>> convey.
>>>> * "indexed-queries" or "query-indexing" would be a good name?  This is
>>>> the best technical name I can think of.
>>>> *  "reverse search" came to mind (based on the Netflix article)
>>>> although that makes me think of leading-wildcard / suffix-search.
>>>> * "inverted-search"
>>>> *  "indexed-query-alerts" incorporates "alerts" thus might better
>>>> convey the use-case
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 3:53 PM Luke Kot-Zaniewski (BLOOMBERG/ 919 3RD
>>>>> A) <lkotzanie...@bloomberg.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> A few months ago I wrote the user list about potentially integrating
>> lucene
>>> monitor into solr. I have raised this PR with a first attempt at
>> implementing
>>> this integration. I'd greatly appreciate any feedback on this even
>> though I
>>> still have it marked as draft. I want to make sure I'm heading in the
>> right
>>> direction here so input from solr dev community would be extremely
>> valuable :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Luke
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