On 2026/10/15 16:54:53 Jan Høydahl wrote:
> Thanks for a clarifying description. That’s how I think about it too.
>
> I’m ok with using both in a consistent way, but I’m also happy if we just go
> back to “standalone” everywhere. I.e you can have a cluster of standalone
> solr nodes. They each stand alone and know nothing about who they are in the
> cluster.
>
> Jan Høydahl
>
> > 15. okt. 2026 kl. 01:18 skrev David Smiley <[email protected]>:
> >
> > I wish to seek a nomenclature decision. I make the following assertions:
> >
> > (A) a Solr *node* has two modes:
> > * SolrCloud
> > * standalone
> >
> > (B) a Solr *cluster* has two types:
> > * SolrCloud
> > * user managed
> >
> > Thus the words "standalone" and "user managed" have their place depending
> > on context. There is too much precedent for the word "standalone" to
> > ignore it, and it's a fine word for the context in which I propose it here.
> > On the other hand, it's not a suitable word to characterize a cluster, and
> > hence we have the term "user managed" that Cassandra championed.
> >
> > Consequence (just listing one for now):
> > * When you start a Solr node, the flag "--user-managed" shall be renamed to
> > "--standalone".
> > Related PR under review now: https://github.com/apache/solr/pull/5121
> >
> > Perhaps Eric might argue for "--solrcloud-enabled=false" as he has sought
> > standardizing on all binary decisions that could be expressed with an
> > "enabled" suffix to do so... albeit I think in this case, it doesn't look
> > as nice to me. But I don't mind.
> >
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It sounds like we have consensus on the standalone terminology? i'm happy to
take the lead on making the chnage.
Let's support --user-managed and --standalone in Solr 10, and drop
--user-managed in Solr 11.
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