So well written AB; exactly.  My attempt:  FOLLOW-THROUGH (closure ==
success) is valued over a great quantity of first-drafts.  Same energy
level is appreciated, just focused instead of spread out.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2026 at 9:35 AM Andrzej Białecki <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Eric wrote:
>
> > 1) We could limit the number of PR's opened, but to me, it just seems like 
> > we are gating potential new contributions (and anyway we close PR's if they 
> > don't get activity after a period of time anyway).
> >
>
> I don’t see this as gating in the sense of discouraging new contributors - 
> quite the opposite, I see this as a quality and closure gate. If all you can 
> open is 7 PRs you will think twice before opening the 7th one, and you will 
> be more invested in helping close the first 6. Current situation where anyone 
> can open 50 PRs and then follow up with rote AI responses is untenable.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrzej
>
> > On 16 Oct 2026, at 16:16, Eric Pugh <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2026/09/03 22:44:13 Jason Gerlowski wrote:
> >> I'm not sure I agree with the bullish assessment on all fronts haha,
> >> but I love the call to action! Both as individuals and as a group we
> >> can be doing more to help out contributors.
> >>
> >> As an aside - I haven't played around with the Github Copilot stuff
> >> you mentioned.  (Largely because I've been pretty happy with Claude).
> >> Maybe I'm alone in being a late adopter there, but if I'm not then
> >> maybe that'd make a good demo for our community meetup?  Show other
> >> committers something that you've seemingly found revolutionary in your
> >> review workflow.
> >>
> >>> Eric cleverly convinced me I wasn't doing enough
> >>
> >> Never listen to Eric :-p
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2026 at 12:27 PM Arup Chauhan
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maybe we can get a dedicated open source code review bot and tweak it’s 
> >>> code for us. That should instill more confidence :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 2, 2026, at 8:02 PM, David Smiley <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It's never been an easier time as a committer to be the 
> >>>> shepherd/reviewer
> >>>> to a non-committer PR.  We have automated code reviews via GitHub 
> >>>> co-pilot
> >>>> (need to add as a reviewer to engage).  No longer do we have to edit a
> >>>> massive CHANGES.txt to pick a version that might be wrong or even know 
> >>>> the
> >>>> version.  No longer do we have the chore of back-porting, for the vast
> >>>> majority of PRs.  Just pick a final destination Milestone on the PR and
> >>>> please DM me a "thank you" if you appreciate this.  An LLM armed with a
> >>>> script is usually going to do this more thoroughly than you would have
> >>>> (i.e. it actually considers multiple CI jobs and usually runs tests 
> >>>> before
> >>>> push).  And recently, I'll manually "resolve" the JIRA issue as well as 
> >>>> the
> >>>> final step (if it looks like a one-shot PR issue) -- Eric cleverly
> >>>> convinced me I wasn't doing enough, so I've got this ;-).  It's really
> >>>> rather satisfying.
> >>>>
> >>>> So with that said, I want to ask the committers here that don't review
> >>>> other people's PRs to please do so, especially those of contributors.  
> >>>> You
> >>>> have powers they don't -- you can get something merged.  The contributor
> >>>> will be grateful; remember being in their shoes.  You can fully handle a 
> >>>> PR
> >>>> responsiby without leaving the GitHub PR issue screen -- at least most of
> >>>> the time.
> >>>>
> >>>> p.s. I'm also grateful for Crave.io for very fast builds... but we'll 
> >>>> need
> >>>> to do without this by the end of the year :-(
> >>>>
> >>>> ~ David Smiley
> >>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
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> > A big topic at Community/Code this past week across all the projects (not 
> > just ours) was the benefits and perils of AI assisted coding.   During the 
> > past few months we've seen some very prolific new contributors (thanks 
> > Serhiy!) start contributing to Solr.   The fresh energy has really 
> > increased our project development.   Then we've had Nick join the party, 
> > and he has gone through our JIRA backlog and cranked out quite a few PR's 
> > that deal with long dormant tickets.
> >
> > I wanted to start a thread and share some thoughts with the dev@ list.
> >
> > There are a couple of approaches we could take to these new contributions.
> >
> > 1) We could limit the number of PR's opened, but to me, it just seems like 
> > we are gating potential new contributions (and anyway we close PR's if they 
> > don't get activity after a period of time anyway).
> >
> > 2) We probably *should* go back through our JIRA and close issues that are 
> > no longer relevant to the project so that new contributors don't get 
> > mislead.  Today I would consider any JIRA issue open for Solr as a valid 
> > one to be worked, but maybe that isnt' the case.
> >
> > 3) We could establish strong prioritization for what PR's need review.  For 
> > example, when I look at what Nick has provided, maybe we want to focus 
> > first on bugs before we focus on feature oriented PR's?
> >
> > 4) We could lean more heavily into AI for evaluating PRs so we can get 
> > through them easier?  I know I struggle with PR's that I want to review, 
> > but aren't in an area that I have deep expertise in.  Unforutantly, too 
> > many of those PRs then just wither on the vine.
> >
> > 5) We can try and activate more committers and contributors to be reviwers. 
> >  I'm referencing David's email: "What a time to be a committer in 2026".   
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/p0cdnwf01v9jb308w4od5bgqp4phno79
> >
> > I don't know what the right path forward is, though I suspect it all 
> > requires us to grow the set of people reviewing PR's.   Any approach we 
> > take hits up against the fundamental limit of us having only so many folks 
> > actively working PR's and merging them.
> >
> > Beyond that, I wanted to start thinking about who to tag for review beyond 
> > the immediate suspects that Github recommends.  My thought was "Who are the 
> > specialists in various areas" that maybe aren't super active, but would be 
> > happy to engage on a PR.
> >
> > So I put together this analysis: 
> > https://claude.ai/code/artifact/2745c59f-a69e-4ee9-9417-6cc421bce4d3?sk=2GexyqEaX33w_f1X3sDw6Q
> >
> > I'd love feedback on it, I suspect it will go through some iterations to be 
> > accurate.
> >
> > Secondly, I wanted to get my arms around the contributions from Nick, as 
> > there are 30 of them which makes it tough to figure out where to start.   I 
> > went ahead and leaned into my current "Pacific Rim" movie fascination, and 
> > did an analysis of them.   I tried to seperate out the pure bug fix from 
> > the feature fixes, and get a quick sense of the complexity of going through 
> > them.
> >
> > https://claude.ai/code/artifact/60d11ce1-18c8-4699-a3fd-cd2a3c19d8e3?sk=XTELG6l6Mk2QHBBDmdaDog
> >
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