That's why I initially suggested to revert this part out of Spark 2.4 and
have more discussion at 3.0 since one of the design goal of Data source V2
is no behaviour changes to end users.

2018년 10월 11일 (목) 오후 7:11, Mendelson, Assaf <assaf.mendel...@rsa.com>님이 작성:

> Actually, it is not just a question of a write only data source. The issue
> is that in my case (and I imagine this is true for others), the schema is
> not read from the database but is understood from the options. This means
> that I have no way of understanding the schema without supplying the read
> options. On the other hand, when writing, I have the schema from the
> dataframe.
>
>
>
> I know the data source V2 API is considered experimental API and I have no
> problem with it, however, this means that the change will require a change
> in how the end user works with it (they suddenly need to add schema
> information which they did not before), not to mention this being a
> regression.
>
>
>
> As to the pull request, this only handles cases where the save mode is not
> append, for the original example (having non existent path but have append
> will still fail and according to the documentation of Append, if the path
> does not exist it should create it).
>
>
>
> I am currently having problem compiling everything so I can’t test it
> myself but wouldn’t changing the relation definition in “save”:
>
>
>
> val relation = DataSourceV2Relation.create(source, options, None,
> Option(df.schema))
>
>
>
> and changing create to look like this:
>
>
>
> def create(source: DataSourceV2, options: Map[String, String], tableIdent:
> Option[TableIdentifier] = None, userSpecifiedSchema: Option[StructType] =
> None): DataSourceV2Relation = {
>
>     val schema =
> userSpecifiedSchema.getOrElse(source.createReader(options,
> userSpecifiedSchema).readSchema())
>
>     val ident = tableIdent.orElse(tableFromOptions(options))
>
>     DataSourceV2Relation(
>
>       source, schema.toAttributes, options, ident, userSpecifiedSchema)
>
>   }
>
>
>
> Correct this?
>
>
>
> Or even creating a new create which simply gets the schema as non optional?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>         Assaf
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:24 AM
> *To:* Mendelson, Assaf; Wenchen Fan
> *Cc:* dev
> *Subject:* Re: Possible bug in DatasourceV2
>
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> See https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/22688
>
>
>
> +WEnchen, here looks the problem raised. This might have to be considered
> as a blocker ...
>
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, 2:48 pm assaf.mendelson, <assaf.mendel...@rsa.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I created a datasource writer WITHOUT a reader. When I do, I get an
> exception: org.apache.spark.sql.AnalysisException: Data source is not
> readable: DefaultSource
>
> The reason for this is that when save is called, inside the source match to
> WriterSupport we have the following code:
>
> val source = cls.newInstance().asInstanceOf[DataSourceV2]
>       source match {
>         case ws: WriteSupport =>
>           val sessionOptions = DataSourceV2Utils.extractSessionConfigs(
>             source,
>             df.sparkSession.sessionState.conf)
>           val options = sessionOptions ++ extraOptions
> -->      val relation = DataSourceV2Relation.create(source, options)
>
>           if (mode == SaveMode.Append) {
>             runCommand(df.sparkSession, "save") {
>               AppendData.byName(relation, df.logicalPlan)
>             }
>
>           } else {
>             val writer = ws.createWriter(
>               UUID.randomUUID.toString, df.logicalPlan.output.toStructType,
> mode,
>               new DataSourceOptions(options.asJava))
>
>             if (writer.isPresent) {
>               runCommand(df.sparkSession, "save") {
>                 WriteToDataSourceV2(writer.get, df.logicalPlan)
>               }
>             }
>           }
>
> but DataSourceV2Relation.create actively creates a reader
> (source.createReader) to extract the schema:
>
> def create(
>       source: DataSourceV2,
>       options: Map[String, String],
>       tableIdent: Option[TableIdentifier] = None,
>       userSpecifiedSchema: Option[StructType] = None): DataSourceV2Relation
> = {
>     val reader = source.createReader(options, userSpecifiedSchema)
>     val ident = tableIdent.orElse(tableFromOptions(options))
>     DataSourceV2Relation(
>       source, reader.readSchema().toAttributes, options, ident,
> userSpecifiedSchema)
>   }
>
>
> This makes me a little confused.
>
> First, the schema is defined by the dataframe itself, not by the data
> source, i.e. it should be extracted from df.schema and not by
> source.createReader
>
> Second, I see that relation is actually only use if the mode is
> SaveMode.append (btw this means if it is needed it should be defined inside
> the "if"). I am not sure I understand the portion of the AppendData but why
> would reading from the source be included?
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> Thanks,
>    Assaf
>
>
>
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