I trust Wenchen to manage the preview release effectively but if there are
concerns around how to manage a developer preview release lets split that
off from the board report discussion.

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 10:44 AM Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I did some historical digging on this.
>
> Whilst both preview release and RCs are pre-release versions, the main
> difference lies in their maturity and readiness for production use. Preview
> releases are early versions aimed at gathering feedback, while release
> candidates (RCs) are nearly finished versions that undergo final testing
> and voting before the official release.
>
> So in our case, we have two options:
>
>
>    1. Skip mentioning of the Preview and focus on "We are intending to
>    gather feedback on version 4 by releasing an earlier version to the
>    community for look and feel feedback, especially focused on APIs
>    2. Mention Preview in the form. "There will be a Preview release with
>    the aim of gathering feedback from the community focused on APIs"
>
> IMO Preview release does not require a formal vote. Preview releases are
> often considered experimental or pre-alpha versions and are not expected to
> meet the same level of stability and completeness as release candidates or
> final releases.
>
> HTH
>
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>
> On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 14:10, Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> @Wenchen Fan <cloud0...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Thanks for the update! To clarify, is the vote for approving a specific
>> preview build, or is it for moving towards an RC stage? I gather there is a
>> distinction between these two?
>>
>>
>> Mich Talebzadeh,
>> Technologist | Architect | Data Engineer  | Generative AI | FinCrime
>> London
>> United Kingdom
>>
>>
>>    view my Linkedin profile
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/>
>>
>>
>>  https://en.everybodywiki.com/Mich_Talebzadeh
>>
>>
>>
>> *Disclaimer:* The information provided is correct to the best of my
>> knowledge but of course cannot be guaranteed . It is essential to note
>> that, as with any advice, quote "one test result is worth one-thousand
>> expert opinions (Werner
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun>Von Braun
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun>)".
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 May 2024 at 13:03, Wenchen Fan <cloud0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The preview release also needs a vote. I'll try my best to cut the RC on
>>> Monday, but the actual release may take some time. Hopefully, we can get it
>>> out this week but if the vote fails, it will take longer as we need more
>>> RCs.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 7:22 AM Dongjoon Hyun <dongjoon.h...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for Holden's comment. Yes, it would be great to mention `it` as
>>>> "soon".
>>>> (If Wenchen release it on Monday, we can simply mention the release)
>>>>
>>>> In addition, Apache Spark PMC received an official notice from ASF
>>>> Infra team.
>>>>
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/rgy1cg17tkd3yox7qfq87ht12sqclkbg
>>>> > [NOTICE] Apache Spark's GitHub Actions usage exceeds allowances for
>>>> ASF projects
>>>>
>>>> To track and comply with the new ASF Infra Policy as much as possible,
>>>> we opened a blocker-level JIRA issue and have been working on it.
>>>> - https://infra.apache.org/github-actions-policy.html
>>>>
>>>> Please include a sentence that Apache Spark PMC is working on under the
>>>> following umbrella JIRA issue.
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-48094
>>>> > Reduce GitHub Action usage according to ASF project allowance
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dongjoon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 3:45 PM Holden Karau <holden.ka...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Do we want to include that we’re planning on having a preview release
>>>>> of Spark 4 so folks can see the APIs “soon”?
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/holdenkarau
>>>>> Books (Learning Spark, High Performance Spark, etc.):
>>>>> https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9  <https://amzn.to/2MaRAG9>
>>>>> YouTube Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/user/holdenkarau
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 3:24 PM Matei Zaharia <matei.zaha...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s time for our quarterly ASF board report on Apache Spark this
>>>>>> Wednesday. Here’s a draft, feel free to suggest changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Description:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache Spark is a fast and general purpose engine for large-scale
>>>>>> data processing. It offers high-level APIs in Java, Scala, Python, R and
>>>>>> SQL as well as a rich set of libraries including stream processing, 
>>>>>> machine
>>>>>> learning, and graph analytics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Issues for the board:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - None
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Project status:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - We made two patch releases: Spark 3.5.1 on February 28, 2024, and
>>>>>> Spark 3.4.2 on April 18, 2024.
>>>>>> - The votes on "SPIP: Structured Logging Framework for Apache Spark"
>>>>>> and "Pure Python Package in PyPI (Spark Connect)" have passed.
>>>>>> - The votes for two behavior changes have passed: "SPARK-44444: Use
>>>>>> ANSI SQL mode by default" and "SPARK-46122: Set
>>>>>> spark.sql.legacy.createHiveTableByDefault to false".
>>>>>> - The community decided that upcoming Spark 4.0 release will drop
>>>>>> support for Python 3.8.
>>>>>> - We started a discussion about the definition of behavior changes
>>>>>> that is critical for version upgrades and user experience.
>>>>>> - We've opened a dedicated repository for the Spark Kubernetes
>>>>>> Operator at https://github.com/apache/spark-kubernetes-operator. We
>>>>>> added a new version in Apache Spark JIRA for versioning of the Spark
>>>>>> operator based on a vote result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trademarks:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - No changes since the last report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Latest releases:
>>>>>> - Spark 3.4.3 was released on April 18, 2024
>>>>>> - Spark 3.5.1 was released on February 28, 2024
>>>>>> - Spark 3.3.4 was released on December 16, 2023
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Committers and PMC:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - The latest committer was added on Oct 2nd, 2023 (Jiaan Geng).
>>>>>> - The latest PMC members were added on Oct 2nd, 2023 (Yuanjian Li and
>>>>>> Yikun Jiang).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ====================
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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