Hey Mike, As you probably noticed when you CC'd spark-develop...@googlegroups.com, that list has already be reconfigured so that it no longer allows posting (and bounces emails sent to it).
We will be doing the same thing to the spark-us...@googlegroups.com list too (we'll announce a date for that soon). That may sound very frustrating, and you are *not* alone feeling that way. We've had a long conversation with our mentors about this, and I've felt very similar to you, so I'd like to give you background. As I'm coming to see it, part of becoming an Apache project is moving the community *fully* over to Apache infrastructure, and more generally the Apache way of organizing the community. This applies in both the nuts-and-bolts sense of being on apache infra, but possibly more importantly, it is also a guiding principle and way of thinking. In various ways, moving to apache Infra can be a painful process, and IMO the loss of all the great mailing list functionality that comes with using Google Groups is perhaps the most painful step. But basically, the de facto mailing lists need to be the Apache ones, and not Google Groups. The underlying reason is that Apache needs to take full accountability for recording and publishing the mailing lists, it has to be able to institutionally guarantee this. This is because discussion on mailing lists is one of the core things that defines an Apache community. So at a minimum this means Apache owning the master copy of the bits. All that said, we are discussing the possibility of having a google group that subscribes to each list that would provide an easier to use and prettier archive for each list (so far we haven't gotten that to work). I hope this was helpful. It has taken me a few years now, and a lot of conversations with experienced (and patient!) Apache mentors, to internalize some of the nuance about "the Apache way". That's why I wanted to share. Andy On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Mike Potts <maspo...@gmail.com> wrote: > I notice that there are still a lot of active topics in this group: and > also activity on the apache mailing list (which is a really horrible > experience!). Is it a firm policy on apache's front to disallow external > groups? I'm going to be ramping up on spark, and I really hate the idea of > having to rely on the apache archives and my mail client. Also: having to > search for topics/keywords both in old threads (here) as well as new > threads in apache's (clunky) archive, is going to be a pain! I almost feel > like I must be missing something because the current solution seems > unfeasibly awkward! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Spark Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to spark-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >
