In a way, this is a wrapper to different PaaS frameworks. However, the new
architecture will also unify concept-wise the different approaches these
different PaaS frameworks have for Container cluster management.

@Lakmal, please correct me if I'm wrong.


Regards,
Chamila de Alwis
Committer and PMC Member - Apache Stratos
Blog: code.chamiladealwis.com

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Sajith Kariyawasam <saj...@wso2.com> wrote:

> With this architecture, will Stratos be a wrapper for different other PaaS
> frameworks?
>
> With Jclouds we get a unified interface for multiple IaaSes, with this
> approach we thinking of proposing Stratos to provide a unified interface to
> talk to different PaaS s?
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Chamil de Alwis <cham...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> As Lakmal mentioned, IMO it is important to focus on a single user
>> experience on top of multiple PaaS frameworks. Various PaaSes have their
>> own implementations and compositions of common PaaS and Container cluster
>> related concepts. IMO Stratos Ignite Architecture should scope, at least
>> initially, to consolidate these concepts to a single abstraction. This
>> should add minimum new knowledge as it could easily become a new "PaaS" to
>> learn if the abstraction becomes too complex.
>>
>> Go lang has proven itself to be able to handle development processes
>> involved with current Container related space, so I'm +1 to use it.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chamila de Alwis
>> Committer and PMC Member - Apache Stratos
>> Blog: code.chamiladealwis.com
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Raj Chudasama <raj.chudas...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> this looks great!
>>>
>>> i hope that you all keep this open to dev community for input as well as
>>> share your progress.  please take all your decisions through the
>>> appropriate Apache 2.0 guidelines.
>>>
>>> i can see a bright future with these changes.  GO did bring many
>>> improvements to PCF.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Lakmal Warusawithana <lak...@apache.org
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>
>>>> Couple of time community were discussed about Stratos refacing to
>>>> carter new technology and threads. Yesterday I have met (unplanned meeting)
>>>> few PMC/committers (Lakmal, Imesh, Akila, Chamilad, IsuruH) offline and
>>>> discussed and came up $subject. Please share your valuable thoughts and
>>>> feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Stratos 4.x and previous versions are mainly focused on run application
>>>> on top of IaaS. To support multiple IaaSes, we used apache jclouds. But
>>>> rise of the container technology future app dev and deployment will couple
>>>> with containers not VM. Because of that we have integrated k8s support in
>>>> Stratos 4.1.x release. But if we carefully looked at 4.1.x and new k8s
>>>> releases, we are adding additional layer to k8s without any benefits.
>>>> Personally I don't like to duplicate engineering effort if it does not
>>>> giving any value to community. This is the background that we thought of
>>>> why Stratos need refacing.
>>>>
>>>> Stratos 5.0 - proposing name "Ignite Architecture", we though of fully
>>>> focus on container based application development/deployment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ​
>>>> We do not want to reinvent or compete with current PaaS providers. We
>>>> propose to change the strategy to support multi PaaS instead of support
>>>> multiple IaaS(Stratos 4.x). In high level, Stratos will provide unique
>>>> workflow across deferent PaaS to deploy apps. Users are not going to tie up
>>>> with PaaS vendors, they will have flexibility to use any PaaS. Stratos will
>>>> play a role in-between PaaS and SaaS. Initially we can start with k8s
>>>> (since we all have domain knowledge) then will add Mesos, CF, ECS etc
>>>> support.
>>>>
>>>> User experience should be very simple. One main problem I have seen in
>>>> all of these PaaS, their technologies are very complicate to understand
>>>> average user.
>>>>
>>>> This is total rewrite of Stratos. We discussed to rewrite with GO, main
>>>> reason Stratos itself should run in-side a container.
>>>>
>>>> Please share your thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> p.s: @(Imesh, Akila, Chamilad, IsuruH) please add if I missed anything.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lakmal Warusawithana
>>>> Vice President, Apache Stratos
>>>> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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