My understanding is that when Struts is re-organised this conflict goes away to a large extent. One of the benefits of Struts becoming a TLP is that it can have sub-projects and the plan is to separate the controller from the tags. This means that they can be released separately and a release of the controller won't be dependant on tag changes or bugs and vice versa. Hopefully that will speed up the release cycle.
I don't agree that we should get rid of the tags altogether - some of them are closely coupled with Struts and outside of Struts, have no use - the <html:messages> tag for example. But I think having the tags as a sub-project satifies both your position Michael, because you don't have to take them and also satsifies Edgar's position (to a certain extent) becuase they are still part of Struts. Where Edgar might not be too happy is with tags being split into *core* (i.e. still actively developed) and *legacy* (tags which can be replaced with JSTL). I don't want to see these *legacy* tags deprecated - I have systems happily using them and I see no value in changing those systems to JSTL unless I have to change them for other reasons. On the subject of custom tag behaviours such as the one proposed by Marcus or Non HTML 4.01 attributes I think we can re-structure the tags to make it easier to sub-class - in fact I put a patch in to do just that three years ago but it never got picked up. Now that I'm in a position to do something myself I'm hoping to re-visit this at some point. Whilst not embracing a proposed change, it would at least facilitate people to easily create their own custom versions. Niall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitting > I'm not trying to beat your point into submission or anything just voicing > my opinion. I wasn't looking for an apology. I think you have a perfectly > valid view...its just not my view. > > I only bring it up because as a long time user of struts I want to see the > platform move in the right direction and the only way I see to do that is to > offer up my views of what I will find useful in 2-3 years. Since I am not a > committer I can only voice my opinions with patches and with participation > on the dev list (Which is how it should work IMHO). > > Just hoping ot help out and make my opinions heard, right or wrong. > > > >From: Edgar P Dollin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: 'Struts Developers List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for > >submitting > >Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:47:52 -0400 > > > >I understand your point, although I don't know why you think it is > >important. I guess I just disagree. > > > >Sorry to have made the posting. > > > >Edgar > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Michael Rasmussen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:43 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for > >submitting > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Watch the online reality show Mixed Messages with a friend and enter to win > a trip to NY > http://www.msnmessenger-download.click-url.com/go/onm00200497ave/direct/01/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
