On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:50:57 +0100, Niall Pemberton wrote: > I assume this is PMC members only, but as you're posting this on > the dev list I guess its open for anyone to give their 2 cents.
It's true that only the PMC votes are binding, but votes and input from everyone is always encouraged. > Bill is active on the user list and answers alot of questions - > thats a big plus in my book and shows he knows what hes talking > about. Like Rob and David though, I haven't seen any patches from > Bill and it seems strange to give someone "committ" privledge that > has never made a submission. I have no personal objection to Bill, > but if anyone is keen to become a committer and work on Struts then > in my thinking a minimum requirement would be that they had > submitted a patch to show that and also provide an example of their > work Like me, Bill seems to be more of a documentator than a coder. He submitted a number of excruciatingly helpful "patches" to the Struts in Action book. He's also posted presentations to the Struts SouceForge site, which I've used in my work. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/struts * jstl-and-struts.pdf * testing.zip There was also a wonderful JSTL cheatsheet of his that I've used, but I can't lay my fingertips on the links right now. Here's some other Siggelkow links * http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/1895 > Wouldn't it be better to encourage him to get involved first and > then if he does that bring him in as a committer? Sure, but, then I'd have to commit all those patches myself, and I honestly don't have that kind of time anymore. :) Some of us know Bill personally and can vouch that he's is a righteous dude, so why not cut to chase? As you observed, it's the PMC votes that are binding. You know, once upon a time, Craig asked if anyone wanted to help with the documentation, I raised my hand, and, pop, I was a Committer. At the time, I think I was asking more questions than I was answering. I had never submitted a patch or even filed a Bugzilla report. It's true that one very good reason for nominating someone is because they are contributing so much, it would be easier to let them commit it themselves :) Another reason is because a nomination may encourage someone with a good heart to do more. -Ted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]