I don't doubt that if he wasn't a great guy and didn't have the ability then you and others wouldn't have nominated/voted for him - he's probably far better qualified/experienced to be a committer than myself. Unfortunately I don't know him persoanlly and nothing I said was against Bill, but it still seems strange to me to give someone "committ" privledge that isn't currently contributing to the Struts source - whether code or documentation. Thats also what you seemed to be saying in this recent post:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg01749.html I remember when you were voted in as a committer and at the time you had put loads of Struts stuff up on http://www.husted.com/struts/ and it was the main resource link on the Struts site. IMO (and obviously the committers at the time) you were contributing alot. Anyway as you said, "...why not cut to chase? As you observed, it's the PMC votes that are binding" so what I think doesn't matter. Niall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [VOTE] - Bill Siggelkow for committer On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:50:57 +0100, Niall Pemberton wrote: > I assume this is PMC members only, but as you're posting this on > the dev list I guess its open for anyone to give their 2 cents. It's true that only the PMC votes are binding, but votes and input from everyone is always encouraged. > Bill is active on the user list and answers alot of questions - > thats a big plus in my book and shows he knows what hes talking > about. Like Rob and David though, I haven't seen any patches from > Bill and it seems strange to give someone "committ" privledge that > has never made a submission. I have no personal objection to Bill, > but if anyone is keen to become a committer and work on Struts then > in my thinking a minimum requirement would be that they had > submitted a patch to show that and also provide an example of their > work Like me, Bill seems to be more of a documentator than a coder. He submitted a number of excruciatingly helpful "patches" to the Struts in Action book. He's also posted presentations to the Struts SouceForge site, which I've used in my work. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/struts * jstl-and-struts.pdf * testing.zip There was also a wonderful JSTL cheatsheet of his that I've used, but I can't lay my fingertips on the links right now. Here's some other Siggelkow links * http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/1895 > Wouldn't it be better to encourage him to get involved first and > then if he does that bring him in as a committer? Sure, but, then I'd have to commit all those patches myself, and I honestly don't have that kind of time anymore. :) Some of us know Bill personally and can vouch that he's is a righteous dude, so why not cut to chase? As you observed, it's the PMC votes that are binding. You know, once upon a time, Craig asked if anyone wanted to help with the documentation, I raised my hand, and, pop, I was a Committer. At the time, I think I was asking more questions than I was answering. I had never submitted a patch or even filed a Bugzilla report. It's true that one very good reason for nominating someone is because they are contributing so much, it would be easier to let them commit it themselves :) Another reason is because a nomination may encourage someone with a good heart to do more. -Ted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
