--- Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We need to do all the same things for all the same
> reasons, but each
> of these framework wants to handle common tasks,
> like input
> validation, data conversion, and text formatting, on
> the presentation
> layer, and then leave the logic processing as an
> exercise to the
> developer.


I do not like when framework tries to toi evrything
itself - it complicates things. I prefer simple but
good tools for concrete tasks, and of course they got
to be integrated somehow. 

My favorite for integration is nanowar ( which can 
provide foundation to struts too )  - 3 layers of
containers which provide different tools for actions
and for templating engine. 

Just drop right tool into right scope and you are fine
( for example string / date formatter, html escaper, 
URL rewriter etc. ) 


> 
> Everyone I talk to agrees that the presentation
> layer coding is where
> all the time goes. So, the challenge is to keep the
> presentation layer
> as simple and clean as we can by pushing the
> complexity up to the
> business control layer.

I prefer to eliminate complexity whenever possible. 

regards,

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