On 11/10/05, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/4/05, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I like Shale dialogs, though there are a couple of issues I'd like to > > investigate. Always helps to know these aren't solved problems. > > <snip/> > > I am sorry but I just could not keep silence ;-) <snap/>
Ofcourse, please, speak up. Do they ask you to be silent around here? ;-) Didn't get why you're sorry. > You can compare your > testing examples with wizard, which works: > http://www.superinterface.com/wizard/signupWizard.do <snip/> Cool. Like the FrontController style setup, you've obviously spent time thinking about these kind of usecases. > > Try to use refresh, back, forward and other stuff. You can control the > wizard using only designated buttons. The key point is redirecting to > the same address. > <snip/> But, I'm not sure what to make of this (haven't looked at the code). It is unclear to me how much effort is involved in making Shale dialogs comply to the "redirect to same address" need. If you want to showcase this with the Shale dialogs in the usecases war, I'd be interested in knowing how much work was involved. I'd also be very happy to create a third column along with the approach I'm trying in this comparison table [1]. The only reason I didn't put that on the wiki was that wiki pages are a bit tough to get rid of once created, and I don't have to leave clutter on the Apache wiki. So, to re-iterate the requirements are: 1) "Wizard style" dialog with bi-directional navigation 2) Navigation using designated buttons, commandLinks etc. and browser navigation buttons. 3) Client - dialog alignment at all times, with minimum explicit authoring The browser navigation buttons are listed since I'd rather not worry about someone using Opera or some other unfavorable browser that doesn't meet the requirements (even if thats a corner case), and folks like to use browser buttons anyway [2]. > On the other hand, this fiddling with navigation buttons is not much > relevant for Ajax app. <snap/> This is definitely a red herring. I think it may be best to fork a new thread if we continue this conversation, so we can follow the multiple approaches separately. As I said before, if you have the desire and the cycles, I'd be interested in your rendition of the Shale usecases war (with your preferred approach). -Rahul [1] http://people.apache.org/~rahul/shale/align-dialog/ [2] http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/andrew.cockburn/papers/ijhcsAnalysis.pdf (somewhat dated, but interesting nevertheless) > > Michael. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]