> There are plenty of way to debug. But what if you need to test Java 6 > features BEFORE it's set in stone? > (Like I tried it, reported a bug w/ JDIC and Sun fixed it). > Does Java 6 work in your IDE?
That's a pretty specialized case. I haven't tried it but I don't see why not. Most IDE's allow you to plug in your own JDK. > Groovy? > ObjectiveC? > WinFX? Doe your text editor? What do you mean by "work?" An IDE can do anything a text editor can do that's for sure. Like I said earlier, I use the IDE for refactoring, managing my packages and classpath and debugging. All of this works fine even if the technology in question is not built into the IDE. > Does IDE work on Vista, OSX and Fedora? > gVim does. (Graphical Visual Editor Improved, aka Vi. Emacs, right, > whatever) Fedora for sure. Haven't tried the others but they are written in Java after all. > Netbans vs Eclipse. Use Both! Would you rather buy an XBox 360 or waste > it on some comerical IDE? My employer pays for my work-related software. I bought my XBox 360 with my own money so no problem there. There are plenty of free IDE's out there as I have already mentioned. > PS: Debug is for corporate newbies. Pros don't waste time on this, they > do this new thing called unit testing ;-). Realy, when somone on my team > is in debuger, I pull them in my office, and required that they improve > test coverage more granular and more layers of indircection. Debuging is > a sign of low productivity in my book. Well you are entitled to your opinion. I wouldn't consider myself a java noob. I am certainly aware of unit testing. Have you ever had a unit test fail that you thought should pass? Ever wonder why? Debuggers can be helpful. Its not *always* necessary but it can make you very productive for those 10% of bugs that are difficult to track down. Have you written a complex multi-threaded application before? If so I feel sorry for you and your devlopment team. While you are beating your heads against a wall trying to figure out which of your 70 threads are deadlocked I am at the bar having a drink after running Threadalyzer. There are certainly cases where an IDE can make you much more productive. Sometimes its no better then a text editor but its *never* worse. > .V sean sean --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]