> There are plenty of way to debug. But what if you need to test Java 6
> features BEFORE it's set in stone?
> (Like I tried it, reported a bug w/ JDIC and Sun fixed it).
> Does Java 6 work in your IDE?

That's a pretty specialized case.  I haven't tried it but I don't see
why not.  Most IDE's allow you to plug in your own JDK.

> Groovy?
> ObjectiveC?
> WinFX?

Doe your text editor?  What do you mean by "work?"  An IDE can do
anything a text editor can do that's for sure.  Like I said earlier, I
use the IDE for refactoring, managing my packages and classpath and
debugging.  All of this works fine even if the technology in question
is not built into the IDE.

> Does IDE work on Vista, OSX and Fedora?
> gVim does. (Graphical Visual Editor Improved, aka Vi. Emacs, right,
> whatever)

Fedora for sure.  Haven't tried the others but they are written in
Java after all.

> Netbans vs Eclipse. Use Both! Would you rather buy an  XBox 360 or waste
> it on some comerical IDE?

My employer pays for my work-related software.  I bought my XBox 360
with my own money so no problem there.  There are plenty of free IDE's
out there as I have already mentioned.

> PS: Debug is for corporate newbies. Pros don't waste time on this, they
> do this new thing called unit testing ;-). Realy, when somone on my team
> is in debuger, I pull them in my office, and required that they improve
> test coverage more granular and more layers of indircection. Debuging is
> a sign of low productivity in my book.

Well you are entitled to your opinion.  I wouldn't consider myself a
java noob.  I am certainly aware of unit testing.  Have you ever had a
unit test fail that you thought should pass?  Ever wonder why? 
Debuggers can be helpful.  Its not *always* necessary but it can make
you very productive for those 10% of bugs that are difficult to track
down.

Have you written a complex multi-threaded application before?  If so I
feel sorry for you and your devlopment team.  While you are beating
your heads against a wall trying to figure out which of your 70
threads are deadlocked I am at the bar having a drink after running
Threadalyzer.

There are certainly cases where an IDE can make you much more
productive.  Sometimes its no better then a text editor but its
*never* worse.

> .V

sean
sean

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